1 00:01:06,420 --> 00:01:02,479 [Music] 2 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:06,430 this hope radio for the masses Atlanta 3 00:01:12,270 --> 00:01:10,090 this new July 8 1947 the Army Air Force 4 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:12,280 has announced that applying this type is 5 00:01:17,100 --> 00:01:14,170 found and is now in the possession of 6 00:01:21,150 --> 00:01:17,110 the army the game is rigged change the 7 00:01:24,359 --> 00:01:21,160 game changer I occasionally think how 8 00:01:28,139 --> 00:01:24,369 quickly our differences worldwide would 9 00:01:30,700 --> 00:01:28,149 vanish if we were facing an alien threat 10 00:01:32,470 --> 00:01:30,710 from outside it is working 11 00:01:35,940 --> 00:01:32,480 [Music] 12 00:01:41,219 --> 00:01:38,399 fade to black with your host Jimmy 13 00:01:47,740 --> 00:01:41,229 church on the game-changer Radio Network 14 00:01:52,900 --> 00:01:49,990 I need your help 15 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:52,910 1980 16 00:02:00,000 --> 00:01:57,010 [Music] 17 00:02:01,700 --> 00:02:00,010 fade to black with Jimmy judge on the 18 00:02:06,540 --> 00:02:01,710 game change in that word 19 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:06,550 [Music] 20 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:09,330 good evening 21 00:02:24,810 --> 00:02:21,700 four masses 22 00:02:30,700 --> 00:02:24,820 and how you doing today's Monday Monday 23 00:02:33,460 --> 00:02:30,710 after Monday Tuesday April 21st 2020 112 24 00:02:34,060 --> 00:02:33,470 days into the new year only 264 days 25 00:02:35,870 --> 00:02:34,070 left 26 00:02:36,580 --> 00:02:35,880 [Music] 27 00:02:39,180 --> 00:02:36,590 [Applause] 28 00:02:41,370 --> 00:02:39,190 [Music] 29 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:41,380 we are live from a bunker somewhere in 30 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:42,610 the middle of beautiful downtown Burbank 31 00:02:46,920 --> 00:02:45,130 California and I would like to welcome 32 00:02:52,340 --> 00:02:46,930 everybody listening all around the world 33 00:02:56,810 --> 00:02:54,860 and tither to and fro back and forth up 34 00:03:00,809 --> 00:02:56,820 and down east and west north and south 35 00:03:06,089 --> 00:03:03,509 this is fade to black for kjc are the 36 00:03:08,550 --> 00:03:06,099 game changer network and KCRA the 37 00:03:10,530 --> 00:03:08,560 planets 38 00:03:14,589 --> 00:03:10,540 our meals Jimmy Church what's crackin 39 00:03:23,550 --> 00:03:19,390 how you do it right 40 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:23,560 tonight's very special guest dr. Manu 41 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:27,530 save some a day that's right he joins us 42 00:03:33,369 --> 00:03:29,690 we are going to be talking about ancient 43 00:03:34,180 --> 00:03:33,379 Egypt tonight every angle more on that 44 00:03:36,940 --> 00:03:34,190 in just a minute 45 00:03:38,009 --> 00:03:36,950 tomorrow night continuing our big brain 46 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:38,019 week 47 00:03:43,649 --> 00:03:41,690 Adam curry Adam curry here tomorrow 48 00:03:47,530 --> 00:03:43,659 we're gonna talk about physics 49 00:03:49,690 --> 00:03:47,540 entanglement communication yeah I'm 50 00:03:51,869 --> 00:03:49,700 gonna get some help in - aren't I - with 51 00:03:53,979 --> 00:03:51,879 Adam so that's going down tomorrow night 52 00:03:56,710 --> 00:03:53,989 Thursday night's another Fator nights 53 00:03:58,539 --> 00:03:56,720 and we will be giving away for fade to 54 00:04:01,509 --> 00:03:58,549 black memberships to those in need and 55 00:04:03,550 --> 00:04:01,519 who are staying at home the call-in 56 00:04:07,210 --> 00:04:03,560 number is seven four seven two two eight 57 00:04:10,289 --> 00:04:07,220 two zero five one open lines on Thursday 58 00:04:14,380 --> 00:04:10,299 you can follow me on twitter at JD o 59 00:04:17,199 --> 00:04:14,390 simple right at J church radio join the 60 00:04:20,140 --> 00:04:17,209 conversation a hashtag F to B is the 61 00:04:22,300 --> 00:04:20,150 sandbox it's already lighting up and the 62 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:22,310 action is there any questions or 63 00:04:29,650 --> 00:04:25,970 comments tonight for myself or dr. says 64 00:04:33,969 --> 00:04:29,660 with a hashtag f - B Q okay and we have 65 00:04:35,589 --> 00:04:33,979 to chat rooms open Spreaker and kg re 66 00:04:39,670 --> 00:04:35,599 the planet and of course we are 67 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:39,680 streaming live over on Facebook YouTube 68 00:04:50,740 --> 00:04:46,570 and Twitter yeah Twitter and tune in and 69 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:50,750 iHeartRadio and kg re the planet and of 70 00:04:56,589 --> 00:04:53,930 course talk stream live so hello to 71 00:05:02,010 --> 00:04:56,599 everybody out there that is tuning in 72 00:05:04,779 --> 00:05:02,020 and a couple of things did you catch the 73 00:05:08,490 --> 00:05:04,789 little live stream I did for disclosure 74 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:08,500 fest earlier today with dr. Steven Greer 75 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:12,650 now it was a whole lot of fun and don't 76 00:05:17,939 --> 00:05:15,289 get to do live video well this is live 77 00:05:20,409 --> 00:05:17,949 video but that was like a split-screen 78 00:05:23,710 --> 00:05:20,419 thing that was that was pretty cool I 79 00:05:25,900 --> 00:05:23,720 never get to see the guests and that was 80 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:25,910 a whole lot of fun and if you didn't get 81 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:28,370 a chance to check it out I'm sure it is 82 00:05:33,010 --> 00:05:31,490 over on his youtube channel you can go 83 00:05:35,470 --> 00:05:33,020 check out the replay all right 84 00:05:42,370 --> 00:05:35,480 you can email throughout the show Jimmy 85 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:42,380 and Jimmy Church radio.com and now I've 86 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:44,330 been debating whether to mention this 87 00:05:51,910 --> 00:05:47,810 today but I think I'm going to as a PSA 88 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:51,920 as a PSA I didn't posted I didn't 89 00:06:01,840 --> 00:05:56,450 mention it but our daughter 90 00:06:06,130 --> 00:06:01,850 Deanna scheduled a coronavirus test for 91 00:06:08,470 --> 00:06:06,140 me today and drive through by the way 92 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:08,480 drive through tests and I went and did 93 00:06:15,550 --> 00:06:11,450 it I did it because she wanted me to do 94 00:06:17,590 --> 00:06:15,560 it just to you know do our thing and to 95 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:17,600 double check on things obviously I don't 96 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:20,210 have results yet but that wasn't the 97 00:06:30,990 --> 00:06:25,450 interesting part of what was going on I 98 00:06:34,900 --> 00:06:31,000 didn't know I was picturing in my mind 99 00:06:37,300 --> 00:06:34,910 maybe I don't know ten cars you know 100 00:06:41,230 --> 00:06:37,310 something like that ten twenty cars and 101 00:06:45,730 --> 00:06:41,240 and pull in do your thing and get out it 102 00:06:51,370 --> 00:06:45,740 wasn't that kind of party it it was a it 103 00:06:56,170 --> 00:06:51,380 was a lot of cars and it took me 45 104 00:07:01,450 --> 00:06:56,180 minutes from beginning to end right pull 105 00:07:03,990 --> 00:07:01,460 in the back and two lanes to two to 106 00:07:07,750 --> 00:07:04,000 testing tents 107 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:07,760 you know just winding through cones it 108 00:07:13,390 --> 00:07:08,890 was it was pretty nuts 109 00:07:18,250 --> 00:07:13,400 it was pretty nuts to see that I that's 110 00:07:20,110 --> 00:07:18,260 not what I expected I didn't think at 111 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:20,120 this point of things I didn't know how 112 00:07:24,310 --> 00:07:21,650 much testing would be going on but that 113 00:07:25,630 --> 00:07:24,320 was was pretty extraordinary I don't 114 00:07:28,150 --> 00:07:25,640 know how many testing sites they have 115 00:07:31,900 --> 00:07:28,160 here in Los Angeles this was here in the 116 00:07:34,630 --> 00:07:31,910 valley and it was it was packed yeah 117 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:34,640 yeah pretty strange I took some pictures 118 00:07:38,710 --> 00:07:36,290 I don't know if I want to post them or 119 00:07:42,910 --> 00:07:38,720 anything like that but I'm you know just 120 00:07:44,830 --> 00:07:42,920 taking pictures of the cars and things I 121 00:07:46,690 --> 00:07:44,840 don't know it's private stuff right 122 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:46,700 alright so maybe I shouldn't post 123 00:07:50,140 --> 00:07:48,890 not private with me I just told the 124 00:07:53,350 --> 00:07:50,150 world about I'm talking about the other 125 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:53,360 people that are there so that's why I 126 00:08:00,760 --> 00:07:54,770 didn't post it I didn't take a picture 127 00:08:04,390 --> 00:08:00,770 of the testing kit which was interesting 128 00:08:06,670 --> 00:08:04,400 I did I took a picture of that and that 129 00:08:09,700 --> 00:08:06,680 I can post and I'm holding it up it's a 130 00:08:13,660 --> 00:08:09,710 plastic bag zip blocks about this big 131 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:13,670 with a big biohazard logo on it says 132 00:08:18,730 --> 00:08:16,730 biohazard and with the with the stuff in 133 00:08:21,130 --> 00:08:18,740 it you know it's got a swab and the 134 00:08:23,290 --> 00:08:21,140 little tube test tube thing that you put 135 00:08:25,900 --> 00:08:23,300 the swab in when you're done but that 136 00:08:28,210 --> 00:08:25,910 was pretty that was pretty bizarre and - 137 00:08:32,140 --> 00:08:28,220 and and this is my point for the whole 138 00:08:36,010 --> 00:08:32,150 thing just watching this go down and why 139 00:08:41,610 --> 00:08:36,020 I am there right I mean the purpose of 140 00:08:45,820 --> 00:08:41,620 my visit to this straight out of a movie 141 00:08:50,020 --> 00:08:45,830 straight out of a movie they oh okay 142 00:08:52,930 --> 00:08:50,030 this is how much of a movie happened I 143 00:08:56,050 --> 00:08:52,940 didn't even tell read about this they do 144 00:08:57,790 --> 00:08:56,060 not approach your car okay everybody's 145 00:08:58,870 --> 00:08:57,800 at a distance right they're talking to 146 00:09:02,680 --> 00:08:58,880 you 147 00:09:04,750 --> 00:09:02,690 six eight ten feet away with a glass 148 00:09:07,330 --> 00:09:04,760 wall you can only roll your window down 149 00:09:08,950 --> 00:09:07,340 halfway I've got my mask on I've got 150 00:09:09,250 --> 00:09:08,960 gloves and all of this so does everybody 151 00:09:10,780 --> 00:09:09,260 else 152 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:10,790 but anyway everybody's got their 153 00:09:19,060 --> 00:09:15,170 biohazard gear on and and and this thing 154 00:09:23,140 --> 00:09:19,070 and so when is that was the distancing 155 00:09:27,370 --> 00:09:23,150 was for real right so anyway I pull up 156 00:09:30,790 --> 00:09:27,380 and the guy that brings you the testing 157 00:09:33,730 --> 00:09:30,800 kit has got it on he's got this like 158 00:09:36,490 --> 00:09:33,740 claw thing right that you pick stuff up 159 00:09:38,980 --> 00:09:36,500 with but from like ten feet away and he 160 00:09:42,220 --> 00:09:38,990 puts the by the the testing kit on the 161 00:09:45,550 --> 00:09:42,230 on the hands extends it out like ten 162 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:45,560 feet and it comes in your car then he 163 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:48,530 pushes the handle and the thing lets go 164 00:09:56,230 --> 00:09:52,130 and you're like wow this is this is 165 00:09:58,960 --> 00:09:56,240 right out of the movies and as I do that 166 00:09:59,750 --> 00:09:58,970 they and I split and I'm just driving 167 00:10:05,300 --> 00:09:59,760 away 168 00:10:08,810 --> 00:10:05,310 it's like surreal surreal that that 169 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:08,820 actually went down yeah it was it was 170 00:10:12,890 --> 00:10:10,530 crazy alright so I just wanted to share 171 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:12,900 that with you I did I went got tested 172 00:10:20,210 --> 00:10:17,370 I'm fine by the way I'm not I got tested 173 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:20,220 cuz my daughter said go get tested I 174 00:10:27,230 --> 00:10:23,130 made the appointment and I did I did the 175 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:27,240 good thing all right you know plus the 176 00:10:33,070 --> 00:10:30,290 other part about it they collect data 177 00:10:35,630 --> 00:10:33,080 they collect data so they find out who 178 00:10:37,700 --> 00:10:35,640 where you know what parts of the country 179 00:10:40,670 --> 00:10:37,710 you know and comes back clean that's 180 00:10:44,780 --> 00:10:40,680 good data that's good data it's just as 181 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:44,790 good of data as if it comes back in and 182 00:10:50,530 --> 00:10:46,410 you're infected so there you go all 183 00:10:52,820 --> 00:10:50,540 right where am I at 184 00:10:54,140 --> 00:10:52,830 speaking of all of that keep your immune 185 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:54,150 system in check 186 00:10:59,090 --> 00:10:56,130 Ronnie McMullen of life changed he's 187 00:11:00,980 --> 00:10:59,100 going 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00:12:19,239 go to the Amazon store and check it out 216 00:12:23,639 --> 00:12:21,639 right now okay and the banners over to 217 00:12:27,210 --> 00:12:23,649 me church radio calm meow 218 00:12:31,710 --> 00:12:27,220 on Twitter I'm looking at your ear 219 00:12:34,139 --> 00:12:31,720 that's not what I did today yeah that's 220 00:12:37,199 --> 00:12:34,149 not what I did and that would that would 221 00:12:41,629 --> 00:12:37,209 have sucked I would have sock but no I 222 00:12:44,549 --> 00:12:41,639 didn't do that just swab your cheeks 223 00:12:47,910 --> 00:12:44,559 that's all it was the swab was only this 224 00:12:50,069 --> 00:12:47,920 long by the way and that's the part I 225 00:12:52,979 --> 00:12:50,079 was expecting you know the the wooden 226 00:12:57,590 --> 00:12:52,989 stick thing you know it's like this long 227 00:13:03,660 --> 00:12:57,600 and you go nah man it's size of a match 228 00:13:08,369 --> 00:13:03,670 it was like that big yep go figure 229 00:13:12,210 --> 00:13:08,379 all right breaking news the New York 230 00:13:15,900 --> 00:13:12,220 Police Department said it arrested 38 231 00:13:19,350 --> 00:13:15,910 people yesterday after officers found 232 00:13:21,659 --> 00:13:19,360 them smoking marijuana the mary-jane and 233 00:13:25,909 --> 00:13:21,669 in possession of various marijuana 234 00:13:31,829 --> 00:13:25,919 products as part of a 4/20 party in 235 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:31,839 Manhattan New York City police said a 236 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:34,410 patrol car was flagged down by a 237 00:13:41,519 --> 00:13:37,569 concerned citizen after they reported 238 00:13:44,369 --> 00:13:41,529 that they saw several people entering an 239 00:13:45,299 --> 00:13:44,379 empty commercial building in midtown 240 00:13:48,210 --> 00:13:45,309 Manhattan 241 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:48,220 now several officers went to investigate 242 00:13:52,799 --> 00:13:50,410 the commercial building to see if this 243 00:13:55,350 --> 00:13:52,809 was violating the state's lockdown order 244 00:13:58,139 --> 00:13:55,360 banning large gatherings and made the 245 00:14:05,369 --> 00:13:58,149 corner virus pandemic and reportedly 246 00:14:09,150 --> 00:14:05,379 smelled the mary-jane pot marijuana the 247 00:14:11,789 --> 00:14:09,160 officers then discovered 38 people on 248 00:14:16,639 --> 00:14:11,799 the third floor of the building in a 249 00:14:19,289 --> 00:14:16,649 smoke-filled room that's right and 420 250 00:14:22,079 --> 00:14:19,299 officers say is according to the police 251 00:14:25,230 --> 00:14:22,089 report they found large bags of 252 00:14:26,610 --> 00:14:25,240 marijuana they found bongs wrapping 253 00:14:30,090 --> 00:14:26,620 papers 254 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:30,100 burritos coolers full of iced soft 255 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:33,850 drinks a large stash of Reese's peanut 256 00:14:39,750 --> 00:14:37,090 butter cups and a case of Hostess apple 257 00:14:42,870 --> 00:14:39,760 pies all of this in the police report 258 00:14:46,050 --> 00:14:42,880 all the attendees were given a summons 259 00:14:48,750 --> 00:14:46,060 for criminal trespassing five were given 260 00:14:51,150 --> 00:14:48,760 a summons for marijuana possession and 261 00:14:53,610 --> 00:14:51,160 two were cited for possession of non 262 00:14:57,690 --> 00:14:53,620 frosted strawberry pop-tarts without a 263 00:14:59,430 --> 00:14:57,700 toaster that's right it all went down 264 00:15:04,380 --> 00:14:59,440 yesterday 4/20 you think I'm making 265 00:15:07,950 --> 00:15:04,390 light of this listen everybody knows you 266 00:15:12,350 --> 00:15:07,960 can't go into an empty commercial 267 00:15:15,750 --> 00:15:12,360 building in Manhattan and smoke pot and 268 00:15:18,170 --> 00:15:15,760 carry not frosted strawberry pop-tarts 269 00:15:23,550 --> 00:15:18,180 without a toaster it's a civil violation 270 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:23,560 that breaks some civil codes I'm just 271 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:24,010 saying 272 00:15:30,540 --> 00:15:27,370 queen elizabeth ii spent her birthday 273 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:30,550 today having video chats with family and 274 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:33,610 working as she turned 94 years old 275 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:38,770 without the usual gun salute the UK 276 00:15:43,590 --> 00:15:40,690 would normally mark the occasion with 277 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:43,600 blank rounds fired from artillery at the 278 00:15:49,230 --> 00:15:47,170 Tower of London in Hyde Park and Windsor 279 00:15:51,450 --> 00:15:49,240 Great Park but the Queen canceled 280 00:15:56,010 --> 00:15:51,460 everything and decided to stay at home 281 00:16:00,630 --> 00:15:56,020 and have a party on zoom' and this story 282 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:00,640 was vetted vetted it's over the non 283 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:02,890 frosted strawberry pop-tarts 284 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:08,530 by the way peanut butter cups a unique 285 00:16:13,770 --> 00:16:11,170 engraving of a dancing human who has 286 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:13,780 been found that was carved on a burial 287 00:16:21,750 --> 00:16:18,090 slab in the not-too feein Cemetery in 288 00:16:25,830 --> 00:16:21,760 northern Israel now check this out did 289 00:16:28,110 --> 00:16:25,840 you hear what I just said the slab was 290 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:28,120 laying over the remains of several 291 00:16:36,780 --> 00:16:34,570 individuals dating from 14,000 to 12,000 292 00:16:38,950 --> 00:16:36,790 years ago all of that based on 293 00:16:43,950 --> 00:16:38,960 radiocarbon analysis of 294 00:16:47,290 --> 00:16:43,960 of the skeletons this may be the oldest 295 00:16:50,530 --> 00:16:47,300 gravestone ever found 296 00:16:56,220 --> 00:16:50,540 you should check it out to think about 297 00:16:58,720 --> 00:16:56,230 this 14,000 years ago Stone Age man 298 00:17:01,329 --> 00:16:58,730 allegedly right we'll be talking about 299 00:17:02,829 --> 00:17:01,339 this tonight with my new Stone Age man 300 00:17:07,870 --> 00:17:02,839 didn't do these kinds of things like 301 00:17:10,390 --> 00:17:07,880 bear burials cemeteries gravestones 302 00:17:13,569 --> 00:17:10,400 how about gravestones with your picture 303 00:17:14,410 --> 00:17:13,579 carved on it think about that that's 304 00:17:17,919 --> 00:17:14,420 crazy 305 00:17:20,049 --> 00:17:17,929 and that is big news the Star Wars UFOs 306 00:17:23,890 --> 00:17:20,059 and artificial intelligence conference 307 00:17:27,069 --> 00:17:23,900 in Laughlin Nevada is on November 5th 308 00:17:28,510 --> 00:17:27,079 through the 8th at the Aquarius Hotel 309 00:17:31,030 --> 00:17:28,520 and Casino and Laughlin 310 00:17:34,419 --> 00:17:31,040 badda for tickets and info just go to 311 00:17:36,370 --> 00:17:34,429 Starworks usa.com and the banners are 312 00:17:38,230 --> 00:17:36,380 over two meters radio.com go click get 313 00:17:40,510 --> 00:17:38,240 your tickets and info because I'm gonna 314 00:17:43,360 --> 00:17:40,520 be there I'm gonna host I'm gonna speak 315 00:17:46,750 --> 00:17:43,370 Reid is gonna be there the entire fade 316 00:17:47,290 --> 00:17:46,760 to black crew is going to be there all 317 00:17:51,820 --> 00:17:47,300 right 318 00:17:54,370 --> 00:17:51,830 a star works usa.com now today I hosted 319 00:17:57,460 --> 00:17:54,380 the live stream for disclosure fest with 320 00:18:00,370 --> 00:17:57,470 dr. Steven Greer earlier today I 321 00:18:03,490 --> 00:18:00,380 mentioned today I'm going to mention it 322 00:18:05,740 --> 00:18:03,500 again you must visit disclosure fest dot 323 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:05,750 org for all of the information it is 324 00:18:11,110 --> 00:18:07,730 scheduled for June 20 if that is a 325 00:18:14,500 --> 00:18:11,120 Saturday the last year we had 20,000 326 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:14,510 attendees it is a huge event and so much 327 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:18,970 fun this year we were expecting more but 328 00:18:23,890 --> 00:18:21,770 coronavirus kind of stepped in so we are 329 00:18:26,860 --> 00:18:23,900 not too sure but the city and the state 330 00:18:29,919 --> 00:18:26,870 at this point say that the event can go 331 00:18:34,120 --> 00:18:29,929 on you don't want to go it is a free 332 00:18:36,310 --> 00:18:34,130 event disclosure fest dot org if we have 333 00:18:39,460 --> 00:18:36,320 to move the date and we move it into 334 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:39,470 August we will let you know well let you 335 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:41,450 know right here and over at disclosure 336 00:18:52,270 --> 00:18:45,530 fest dot org now happy birthday to today 337 00:18:55,330 --> 00:18:52,280 Iggy Pop is 73 cold metal 338 00:18:58,540 --> 00:18:55,340 and that's a good song rob riggle today 339 00:19:00,340 --> 00:18:58,550 one of the funniest guys I know is 50 340 00:19:05,590 --> 00:19:00,350 years old who's in the hangover he was 341 00:19:08,350 --> 00:19:05,600 great and the cures Robert Smith I can't 342 00:19:09,490 --> 00:19:08,360 believe I'm gonna say this today is 61 343 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:09,500 years old 344 00:19:17,770 --> 00:19:13,570 love me some cure on the state history 345 00:19:20,770 --> 00:19:17,780 2016 prints his found dead in Paisley 346 00:19:27,100 --> 00:19:20,780 Park his Minnesota home and recording 347 00:19:31,060 --> 00:19:27,110 studio fader fact here you go see Mineta 348 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:31,070 de pitbull that's her name is the 349 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:33,410 current director of the United Nations 350 00:19:39,190 --> 00:19:35,810 office for outer space affairs 351 00:19:42,550 --> 00:19:39,200 she's the ambassador and she is doesn't 352 00:19:46,690 --> 00:19:42,560 she is the designated person to act as 353 00:19:50,830 --> 00:19:46,700 ambassador to extraterrestrials when 354 00:19:53,590 --> 00:19:50,840 they arrived that's right and that is 355 00:20:01,200 --> 00:19:53,600 your fader of fact semi meta de people 356 00:20:07,300 --> 00:20:01,210 that's di people P I PPO people 357 00:20:10,810 --> 00:20:07,310 Simonetta the people I wonder if she's 358 00:20:13,300 --> 00:20:10,820 made contact already right in the in the 359 00:20:15,910 --> 00:20:13,310 in the secure room at the United Nations 360 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:15,920 makes you wonder how that goes down what 361 00:20:20,650 --> 00:20:17,450 does she study what kind of paperwork to 362 00:20:25,750 --> 00:20:20,660 they give her what's the research right 363 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:25,760 what is she doing all day long I'm just 364 00:20:33,250 --> 00:20:28,610 saying tonight very special guest doctor 365 00:20:36,550 --> 00:20:33,260 man manu says bud he's losing right now 366 00:20:38,710 --> 00:20:36,560 he's a grad church doctor bad news a spa 367 00:20:41,050 --> 00:20:38,720 day is here and we are going to be 368 00:20:43,990 --> 00:20:41,060 talking about ancient Egypt 369 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:44,000 Tech and we are going to now we've got 370 00:20:49,150 --> 00:20:46,010 some things that we need to discuss 371 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:49,160 tonight I'm gonna get on to one of my 372 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:50,450 favorite subjects 373 00:20:59,700 --> 00:20:53,930 right now and before I do doctor my news 374 00:21:05,680 --> 00:20:59,710 says Friday that's right today tonight 375 00:21:09,039 --> 00:21:05,690 I'm in a great mood i swab i swab today 376 00:21:12,220 --> 00:21:09,049 one of my favorite scenes is when I 377 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:12,230 drink River moon coffee that's right 378 00:21:16,450 --> 00:21:13,850 no that's not one of my favorite scenes 379 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:16,460 and that is the best scene though one of 380 00:21:25,990 --> 00:21:20,090 my favorite scenes in any of any movie 381 00:21:26,379 --> 00:21:26,000 is the beginning of Stargate that's 382 00:21:29,889 --> 00:21:26,389 right 383 00:21:32,710 --> 00:21:29,899 when professor Daniel Jackson played by 384 00:21:35,470 --> 00:21:32,720 James Spader that's such a great movie 385 00:21:38,649 --> 00:21:35,480 in the beginning he is giving his 386 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:38,659 presentation about the Great Pyramid in 387 00:21:43,749 --> 00:21:41,570 Egypt he's at a museum it's got a packed 388 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:43,759 audience in front of them everybody's 389 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:46,850 listening and you know and he starts to 390 00:21:52,389 --> 00:21:49,129 take some questions and he goes through 391 00:21:54,220 --> 00:21:52,399 he's dropping all the names right he's 392 00:21:57,940 --> 00:21:54,230 Easy's doing his thing 393 00:22:02,409 --> 00:21:57,950 well someone raises their hand asks 394 00:22:08,259 --> 00:22:02,419 Bader says well if if Khufu didn't build 395 00:22:13,930 --> 00:22:08,269 the Great Pyramid who did and Spader 396 00:22:17,980 --> 00:22:13,940 stumbles I well you know I I don't know 397 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:17,990 that's what he says everybody gets up 398 00:22:22,740 --> 00:22:20,090 and walks out and Spader's like what is 399 00:22:28,779 --> 00:22:22,750 it lunch break is it a lunch break and 400 00:22:32,409 --> 00:22:28,789 it's it's a perfect scene because it's 401 00:22:36,430 --> 00:22:32,419 the one question that everybody wants an 402 00:22:39,519 --> 00:22:36,440 answer to including myself right so many 403 00:22:43,810 --> 00:22:39,529 presentations so many documentaries over 404 00:22:46,950 --> 00:22:43,820 the years do exactly what roland 405 00:22:51,639 --> 00:22:46,960 emmerich did in that scene with Spader 406 00:22:54,519 --> 00:22:51,649 it's perfect right because we all 407 00:22:57,310 --> 00:22:54,529 speculate we research we do this I've 408 00:22:59,830 --> 00:22:57,320 spent more time on this than just about 409 00:23:02,049 --> 00:22:59,840 any subject that you can think of and 410 00:23:04,450 --> 00:23:02,059 the more research that I do the more 411 00:23:06,430 --> 00:23:04,460 questions that I have and I'm just like 412 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:06,440 everybody else you can go and get your 413 00:23:10,629 --> 00:23:08,570 books on ancient Egypt you can watch the 414 00:23:13,330 --> 00:23:10,639 documentaries you can do whatever you 415 00:23:17,230 --> 00:23:13,340 want to do listen to the lectures at the 416 00:23:18,220 --> 00:23:17,240 conference's and everything leads up to 417 00:23:22,300 --> 00:23:18,230 a certain point 418 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:22,310 and as an audience member as somebody 419 00:23:27,430 --> 00:23:24,170 that's doing research and some of that 420 00:23:31,300 --> 00:23:27,440 is casually investigating these subjects 421 00:23:33,370 --> 00:23:31,310 the more that you find out the more 422 00:23:38,430 --> 00:23:33,380 questions that you have it's really that 423 00:23:42,940 --> 00:23:38,440 simple there are a few points to this 424 00:23:48,870 --> 00:23:42,950 that for me have confounded me and why 425 00:23:50,410 --> 00:23:48,880 they aren't addressed by our community 426 00:23:53,020 --> 00:23:50,420 Egyptologists are gonna leave it alone 427 00:23:57,070 --> 00:23:53,030 I'm not gonna go there they got to play 428 00:23:59,980 --> 00:23:57,080 the safe card but our community there's 429 00:24:03,700 --> 00:23:59,990 a few questions and one of them I mean 430 00:24:09,730 --> 00:24:03,710 it's a fundamental thing so fundamental 431 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:09,740 is that Egyptologists will point to the 432 00:24:15,700 --> 00:24:13,250 Great Pyramid and speak about 10,000 or 433 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:15,710 20,000 workers that camped out have 434 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:17,090 built a town right there 435 00:24:23,230 --> 00:24:20,570 and built the pyramid over 20 years and 436 00:24:25,690 --> 00:24:23,240 that's how they got it done right and 437 00:24:27,550 --> 00:24:25,700 then okay one block every two minutes 438 00:24:33,330 --> 00:24:27,560 okay all right all right leave all of 439 00:24:36,810 --> 00:24:33,340 that alone when they make that statement 440 00:24:40,390 --> 00:24:36,820 they leave out some crucial things and 441 00:24:42,970 --> 00:24:40,400 one of the main points is and you only 442 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:42,980 have to go back into a little bit of 443 00:24:52,870 --> 00:24:47,570 research is I went back and tried to 444 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:52,880 find out the population of Egypt during 445 00:24:59,950 --> 00:24:57,770 that period of 3,000 to 2500 BC you can 446 00:25:04,110 --> 00:24:59,960 stop and start the conversation right 447 00:25:07,990 --> 00:25:04,120 there because based on the numbers that 448 00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:08,000 Egyptologists have given us and there 449 00:25:15,190 --> 00:25:13,130 are two crucial ones one how many people 450 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:15,200 built the Great Pyramid their guesses 451 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:19,970 between 10 and 20,000 right okay the 452 00:25:27,370 --> 00:25:22,970 other fact that is published by them is 453 00:25:30,100 --> 00:25:27,380 how many pyramids were built during this 454 00:25:30,850 --> 00:25:30,110 time period that time period is about 455 00:25:37,020 --> 00:25:30,860 one 456 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:40,330 megalithic sites that were built during 457 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:45,890 this period numbers of about 75 sites 458 00:25:54,700 --> 00:25:51,010 and about 25 pyramids that's 25 459 00:25:57,730 --> 00:25:54,710 ginormous gigantic pyramids over a 460 00:26:01,750 --> 00:25:57,740 hundred and fifty year period now you do 461 00:26:06,700 --> 00:26:01,760 the math on that okay it's a pyramid 462 00:26:08,980 --> 00:26:06,710 every four years and and if you if you 463 00:26:12,730 --> 00:26:08,990 stop in five years four years three 464 00:26:15,909 --> 00:26:12,740 years if you buy the dating that they 465 00:26:18,940 --> 00:26:15,919 give you now let's stop for a second and 466 00:26:22,990 --> 00:26:18,950 think about what they are suggesting if 467 00:26:26,830 --> 00:26:23,000 you go back with just thinking about 468 00:26:30,850 --> 00:26:26,840 that for a second every that means they 469 00:26:33,490 --> 00:26:30,860 had ten or twenty thousand people moving 470 00:26:37,630 --> 00:26:33,500 around the desert for a hundred and 471 00:26:41,140 --> 00:26:37,640 fifty years only building pyramids not 472 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:41,150 one but not the Great Pyramid all of 473 00:26:47,950 --> 00:26:45,250 them now what's the population of Egypt 474 00:26:52,030 --> 00:26:47,960 population of Egypt during this period 475 00:26:54,730 --> 00:26:52,040 at 3,000 BC was between a hundred and 476 00:26:57,700 --> 00:26:54,740 fifty and two hundred and fifty thousand 477 00:27:00,330 --> 00:26:57,710 people and as you move down the timeline 478 00:27:06,070 --> 00:27:00,340 and you get closer to and you get to 20 479 00:27:08,830 --> 00:27:06,080 750 BC 2700 BC it's kicking up 300,000 480 00:27:12,430 --> 00:27:08,840 you know but it's a flat line you get to 481 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:12,440 2500 BC and here kissing five hundred 482 00:27:22,150 --> 00:27:17,210 thousand people so that says to me now 483 00:27:24,039 --> 00:27:22,160 remember that's all of Egypt that's from 484 00:27:26,740 --> 00:27:24,049 the Mediterranean all the way down to 485 00:27:31,150 --> 00:27:26,750 the start of the Nile in Ethiopia that's 486 00:27:33,730 --> 00:27:31,160 the entire Nile Valley all the way now 487 00:27:39,490 --> 00:27:33,740 think about that for a second what that 488 00:27:42,549 --> 00:27:39,500 says is every person in Egypt was 489 00:27:43,930 --> 00:27:42,559 building a pyramid nobody else was doing 490 00:27:47,559 --> 00:27:43,940 anything 491 00:27:48,849 --> 00:27:47,569 I got a problem with that I got a 492 00:27:54,039 --> 00:27:48,859 serious problem 493 00:27:55,949 --> 00:27:54,049 the 150 year period building 25 pyramids 494 00:27:59,319 --> 00:27:55,959 and I'm talking about the red pyramid 495 00:28:03,789 --> 00:27:59,329 right the step pyramid those are all up 496 00:28:04,959 --> 00:28:03,799 every pyramid there's a lot of them you 497 00:28:08,109 --> 00:28:04,969 don't see them today 498 00:28:10,569 --> 00:28:08,119 they've crumbled right but that's the 499 00:28:15,189 --> 00:28:10,579 one thing that throws the curve in all 500 00:28:17,469 --> 00:28:15,199 of this I wouldn't have gotten that 501 00:28:22,689 --> 00:28:17,479 question like James Spader did 502 00:28:24,549 --> 00:28:22,699 had it been addressed like this it's not 503 00:28:26,769 --> 00:28:24,559 about you know well then who built it 504 00:28:30,539 --> 00:28:26,779 well wait am i can tell you who didn't I 505 00:28:32,439 --> 00:28:30,549 just told you that's the crazy part 506 00:28:34,419 --> 00:28:32,449 we're gonna talk about all of that 507 00:28:36,459 --> 00:28:34,429 tonight with Manu he will be here right 508 00:28:39,339 --> 00:28:36,469 after this short break I am your host 509 00:28:42,939 --> 00:28:39,349 Jimmy church this is fade to black this 510 00:28:44,139 --> 00:28:42,949 and night 2 of our Big Brain week right 511 00:28:46,569 --> 00:28:44,149 here on fade to black 512 00:28:49,089 --> 00:28:46,579 what a great week last night Isaac 513 00:28:50,619 --> 00:28:49,099 Arthur tonight dr. 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00:33:13,450 it is Adam curry Thursday nights and 587 00:33:20,550 --> 00:33:16,540 other Fator nights open lines all night 588 00:33:22,740 --> 00:33:20,560 long now my new became interested in 589 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:22,750 Egyptology after reading Robert boo 590 00:33:39,990 --> 00:33:26,130 balls the Orion mystery like a lot of us 591 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:40,000 - book the khanoom re or can't a psycho 592 00:33:45,650 --> 00:33:44,170 I hope I or Cathy [\h__\h] Katya say it for 593 00:33:50,490 --> 00:33:45,660 me my new [\h__\h] Cathy 594 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:50,500 Horrocks T Rock DC you know you do 595 00:33:54,390 --> 00:33:52,570 things correctly the idea behind the 596 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:54,400 architectural design of Khufu's Great 597 00:33:59,550 --> 00:33:57,250 Pyramid deciphers the timing of the most 598 00:34:01,020 --> 00:33:59,560 sacred celestial objects observed by the 599 00:34:04,770 --> 00:34:01,030 ancient Egyptians 600 00:34:06,930 --> 00:34:04,780 first become first became geometry and 601 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:06,940 then the core design of the most famous 602 00:34:11,820 --> 00:34:09,130 monument in the world the conclusion is 603 00:34:13,650 --> 00:34:11,830 unmistakable Manila's also co-authored 604 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:13,660 articles with Robert Schoch and Robert 605 00:34:18,030 --> 00:34:15,610 Bauval where they explore the true 606 00:34:20,370 --> 00:34:18,040 origin of the Great Sphinx more on that 607 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:20,380 in just a bit tonight a quest that led 608 00:34:25,110 --> 00:34:22,690 them all to yet another ancient Egyptian 609 00:34:25,890 --> 00:34:25,120 creation story and the code that started 610 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:25,900 it all 611 00:34:30,900 --> 00:34:27,850 now he is a Persian and German descent 612 00:34:32,790 --> 00:34:30,910 he is also a practicing dermatologist 613 00:34:34,890 --> 00:34:32,800 right here in Southern California and 614 00:34:37,490 --> 00:34:34,900 has a background in physical sciences 615 00:34:38,610 --> 00:34:37,500 trained in microbiology and molecular 616 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:38,620 generics 617 00:34:43,980 --> 00:34:41,650 his website is Cheops pyramid comm the 618 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:43,990 links are over two meters radio calm and 619 00:34:48,570 --> 00:34:45,370 I would like to welcome back to fade to 620 00:34:51,450 --> 00:34:48,580 black my news a spa day my new doctor 621 00:34:54,720 --> 00:34:51,460 how are you today hi Jimmy good to be 622 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:54,730 with you in a long time it you know you 623 00:35:00,030 --> 00:34:56,650 know what's really strange about that I 624 00:35:03,030 --> 00:35:00,040 don't know where time goes I don't we we 625 00:35:05,220 --> 00:35:03,040 did those shows together and then the 626 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:05,230 next thing you know right it's just like 627 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:08,770 blink where were you yeah yeah we got a 628 00:35:14,550 --> 00:35:11,050 lot to catch up on we do have a lot to 629 00:35:17,830 --> 00:35:14,560 get to catch up on and the first thing 630 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:17,840 that I want to address 631 00:35:25,930 --> 00:35:22,850 I I don't I haven't been covering 632 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:25,940 coronavirus okay I just haven't these 633 00:35:30,100 --> 00:35:28,130 shows have been all about going and 634 00:35:32,410 --> 00:35:30,110 going back to what we know and and I'm 635 00:35:36,990 --> 00:35:32,420 not here to promote fear or discuss it 636 00:35:38,740 --> 00:35:37,000 or anything but you are a doctor and 637 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:38,750 have you been 638 00:35:47,650 --> 00:35:45,410 mean have you gotten the call do they do 639 00:35:50,050 --> 00:35:47,660 they need your help anywhere and how's 640 00:35:52,950 --> 00:35:50,060 it going they're doing a background 641 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:52,960 check right now which when physicians 642 00:35:58,450 --> 00:35:56,690 when we when we apply for a job it's or 643 00:36:01,210 --> 00:35:58,460 if we volunteer it doesn't make a 644 00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:01,220 difference we get we go through a very 645 00:36:06,490 --> 00:36:03,110 extensive background checking and so 646 00:36:08,380 --> 00:36:06,500 that's what they're doing I so I haven't 647 00:36:09,850 --> 00:36:08,390 gotten a call but I've all I'd said 648 00:36:12,130 --> 00:36:09,860 they'd accredit the paper were a couple 649 00:36:14,290 --> 00:36:12,140 of weeks ago and you know I'm it could 650 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:14,300 be any day but right now we don't have 651 00:36:18,430 --> 00:36:16,370 such a big volume of patients yet I 652 00:36:20,830 --> 00:36:18,440 think they're just getting ready yeah I 653 00:36:23,950 --> 00:36:20,840 I don't know if you heard the opening 654 00:36:27,100 --> 00:36:23,960 segment of the show but I did go and get 655 00:36:29,050 --> 00:36:27,110 tested today yes and yeah you heard that 656 00:36:32,620 --> 00:36:29,060 and that was that was pretty interesting 657 00:36:35,950 --> 00:36:32,630 for me I was not getting the swab up up 658 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:35,960 your nose no no it was in the mouth but 659 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:38,810 I need to drive through so you do 660 00:36:43,060 --> 00:36:40,610 everything yourself all right 661 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:43,070 and so you're doing the test in the car 662 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:45,530 you're doing the swab yourself 663 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:47,090 they wouldn't even come up to your car 664 00:36:49,570 --> 00:36:48,770 they're talking to you from like across 665 00:36:55,930 --> 00:36:49,580 the street 666 00:37:01,000 --> 00:36:55,940 how you doing are you James so anyway 667 00:37:04,870 --> 00:37:01,010 but what was I didn't know what to 668 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:04,880 expect I was thinking I was gonna pull 669 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:06,890 up I'm serious too about this I was 670 00:37:11,170 --> 00:37:09,290 thinking 10 or 20 cars you know a pretty 671 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:11,180 good line you know maybe 20 cars I 672 00:37:17,550 --> 00:37:14,090 didn't expect what I saw which was like 673 00:37:20,110 --> 00:37:17,560 the set of a Hollywood movie it was a 674 00:37:25,090 --> 00:37:20,120 lot of cars it was in the hundreds for 675 00:37:28,630 --> 00:37:25,100 sure and filled up an entire ginormous 676 00:37:29,900 --> 00:37:28,640 parking lot of a hospital and and wild 677 00:37:31,819 --> 00:37:29,910 around and and it was 678 00:37:33,470 --> 00:37:31,829 you know it's it's the protective gear 679 00:37:36,380 --> 00:37:33,480 it's the hazmat suits it's the 680 00:37:38,839 --> 00:37:36,390 distancing and how they did it was right 681 00:37:40,700 --> 00:37:38,849 out of the movies right out of the 682 00:37:43,549 --> 00:37:40,710 movies well when I go to when I go to 683 00:37:45,410 --> 00:37:43,559 work I have to i we didn't have those 684 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:45,420 gowns so I ended up going to Home Depot 685 00:37:51,859 --> 00:37:47,490 I bought myself a plastic raincoat 686 00:37:54,349 --> 00:37:51,869 two-piece and I bought $100 and 95 masks 687 00:37:57,049 --> 00:37:54,359 with a silicone gel so I'm not taking 688 00:37:58,940 --> 00:37:57,059 any chances I when I touch before I 689 00:38:03,049 --> 00:37:58,950 touch my door handles on the car I spray 690 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:03,059 him down I we wash our hands I don't 691 00:38:08,900 --> 00:38:06,690 know hundred times a day at work yeah so 692 00:38:10,849 --> 00:38:08,910 it's it's dangerous for some of us it's 693 00:38:12,380 --> 00:38:10,859 there I personally I think if I caught 694 00:38:15,170 --> 00:38:12,390 this one I have a good friend right now 695 00:38:17,359 --> 00:38:15,180 he's been battling for three weeks now 696 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:17,369 and he went to the hospital today 697 00:38:22,789 --> 00:38:19,410 because he thought this is it he's got 698 00:38:24,410 --> 00:38:22,799 to go in and they did a couple of tests 699 00:38:26,599 --> 00:38:24,420 and they sent him back home so but he's 700 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:26,609 scared you know it's a serious disease 701 00:38:31,670 --> 00:38:28,530 in some people it is it is I'll tell you 702 00:38:34,510 --> 00:38:31,680 what's funny this is you know if I can 703 00:38:40,130 --> 00:38:34,520 find a humorous part to all of this 704 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:40,140 before this all hit you could go to a 705 00:38:46,069 --> 00:38:42,450 supermarket and at the entrance of the 706 00:38:50,299 --> 00:38:46,079 supermarket right there is hand cleaner 707 00:38:54,049 --> 00:38:50,309 and and sanitary napkins to wipe down 708 00:39:00,019 --> 00:38:54,059 the handle of the shopping cart that 709 00:39:08,140 --> 00:39:00,029 nobody used ever not me not you not 710 00:39:10,700 --> 00:39:08,150 anybody they just sat there not now no 711 00:39:12,529 --> 00:39:10,710 Jimmy I'm making my own hand side I can 712 00:39:14,660 --> 00:39:12,539 you believe that I took a gallon of 713 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:14,670 water and put some Clarke speech in it 714 00:39:18,410 --> 00:39:16,650 because that's a proof recipe that's 715 00:39:21,170 --> 00:39:18,420 that's my hand sanitizer because I 716 00:39:22,940 --> 00:39:21,180 couldn't get any right right yeah I kind 717 00:39:28,039 --> 00:39:22,950 of like I enjoyed the smell of bleach 718 00:39:30,410 --> 00:39:28,049 now yeah and a raincoat but that's 719 00:39:32,750 --> 00:39:30,420 another story that's another story okay 720 00:39:36,980 --> 00:39:32,760 all right let's let's get straight to it 721 00:39:39,220 --> 00:39:36,990 since you were listening earlier that 722 00:39:42,750 --> 00:39:39,230 opening scene of 723 00:39:47,859 --> 00:39:42,760 Stargate that scene with James Spader is 724 00:39:52,150 --> 00:39:47,869 so well presented and I invite anybody 725 00:39:55,390 --> 00:39:52,160 out there it just it in caps encapsulate 726 00:39:57,340 --> 00:39:55,400 everything about ancient Egypt that we 727 00:40:00,099 --> 00:39:57,350 have questions about and roland emmerich 728 00:40:03,570 --> 00:40:00,109 and in the way that he directed that 729 00:40:07,210 --> 00:40:03,580 scene not only does it say it all but I 730 00:40:08,890 --> 00:40:07,220 anybody to go back especially after 731 00:40:12,609 --> 00:40:08,900 listening to fade to black for the last 732 00:40:18,580 --> 00:40:12,619 seven years go back and watch that scene 733 00:40:21,609 --> 00:40:18,590 again and listened to the names what he 734 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:21,619 says about languages he talks about a 735 00:40:27,310 --> 00:40:23,930 lion he mentions a lot of different 736 00:40:30,310 --> 00:40:27,320 things Spader in that short time span 737 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:30,320 including the relieving chambers above 738 00:40:37,570 --> 00:40:33,530 the king's chamber and and the graffiti 739 00:40:41,500 --> 00:40:37,580 all of that all of that is is in there 740 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:41,510 it's so well done and you just you walk 741 00:40:46,570 --> 00:40:43,490 away from that scene and that's the 742 00:40:49,810 --> 00:40:46,580 exact challenge and problem that we have 743 00:40:52,330 --> 00:40:49,820 with the story and the dogma behind 744 00:40:54,370 --> 00:40:52,340 ancient egypt isn't it that's exactly 745 00:40:57,430 --> 00:40:54,380 right yeah they we still have these two 746 00:40:58,930 --> 00:40:57,440 big big categories of problems we had 747 00:41:01,390 --> 00:40:58,940 the one that you touched on is exactly 748 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:01,400 right you nailed it that is the economy 749 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:03,890 the economy of building the pyramids 750 00:41:09,070 --> 00:41:06,770 that's a big is still a big question 751 00:41:11,260 --> 00:41:09,080 yeah they've come up with estimates for 752 00:41:12,849 --> 00:41:11,270 people numbers of people but you're 753 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:12,859 right this is that's how you have to 754 00:41:19,300 --> 00:41:15,050 approach it so there's the tech how the 755 00:41:21,250 --> 00:41:19,310 big so the big subjects are how how was 756 00:41:23,260 --> 00:41:21,260 the granite cut and of course you know 757 00:41:25,510 --> 00:41:23,270 chris dunn you know that's his that's 758 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:25,520 his territory so he's he's done a lot of 759 00:41:29,590 --> 00:41:27,170 research in that topic and then the 760 00:41:32,109 --> 00:41:29,600 second big question is how were that the 761 00:41:35,230 --> 00:41:32,119 blocks lifted to the top portion of the 762 00:41:37,750 --> 00:41:35,240 pyramid so we thought we had maybe this 763 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:37,760 internal ramp from jean-pierre Houdin 764 00:41:43,330 --> 00:41:40,850 but but the most recent muon data i have 765 00:41:45,790 --> 00:41:43,340 to tell you it doesn't look that great 766 00:41:47,740 --> 00:41:45,800 it could still it's possible that the 767 00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:47,750 corridors flipped they they just weren't 768 00:41:52,660 --> 00:41:49,730 detected it's just that the technique is 769 00:41:53,109 --> 00:41:52,670 not that sensitive but also i was wrong 770 00:41:54,190 --> 00:41:53,119 so 771 00:41:56,140 --> 00:41:54,200 you know last time when we talked I 772 00:41:58,809 --> 00:41:56,150 predicted there be chambers they were 773 00:42:01,109 --> 00:41:58,819 not found in the most recent scan so you 774 00:42:04,569 --> 00:42:01,119 know right so I was falsified on that 775 00:42:06,579 --> 00:42:04,579 but there's still there's no room for a 776 00:42:08,049 --> 00:42:06,589 smaller corridor smaller chambers they 777 00:42:09,999 --> 00:42:08,059 just need to may be more sensitive 778 00:42:12,339 --> 00:42:10,009 technique but I don't know if we have 779 00:42:14,049 --> 00:42:12,349 one right now so so that's the tech and 780 00:42:16,450 --> 00:42:14,059 but then on the outfit the other big 781 00:42:18,609 --> 00:42:16,460 question mark which I I'm actually more 782 00:42:21,730 --> 00:42:18,619 interested in is the design is the idea 783 00:42:24,970 --> 00:42:21,740 behind the design of the architecture of 784 00:42:25,809 --> 00:42:24,980 the Great Pyramid and so that's what I 785 00:42:27,370 --> 00:42:25,819 wanted to happen 786 00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:27,380 I brought your gifts Jimmy you're gonna 787 00:42:35,410 --> 00:42:30,049 love it I got a great story for you 788 00:42:37,870 --> 00:42:35,420 about that so this is we have so much to 789 00:42:40,809 --> 00:42:37,880 discuss tonight and and as you know this 790 00:42:44,589 --> 00:42:40,819 is one of my favorite subjects and and 791 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:44,599 the more that I explore this subject and 792 00:42:49,420 --> 00:42:47,690 look going back to the great John 793 00:42:51,599 --> 00:42:49,430 Anthony West or Robert Schoch in their 794 00:42:57,819 --> 00:42:51,609 original research and you go back to 795 00:43:00,880 --> 00:42:57,829 1992 93 94 and Bauval and and the of 796 00:43:03,970 --> 00:43:00,890 course Graham Hancock and all of this 797 00:43:08,559 --> 00:43:03,980 research that was going on back then and 798 00:43:12,999 --> 00:43:08,569 here we are 2020 still trying to unravel 799 00:43:16,059 --> 00:43:13,009 this I I do believe if you are a 800 00:43:19,930 --> 00:43:16,069 detective you know you have to play that 801 00:43:21,940 --> 00:43:19,940 role play the role of detective and just 802 00:43:23,769 --> 00:43:21,950 go look at the facts then try to prove 803 00:43:25,299 --> 00:43:23,779 the facts and see what you can back up 804 00:43:28,150 --> 00:43:25,309 with those facts and if they don't line 805 00:43:30,279 --> 00:43:28,160 up then you have a place to go yeah 806 00:43:33,009 --> 00:43:30,289 that's right well I I can tell you 807 00:43:35,380 --> 00:43:33,019 there's some good legwork there's some 808 00:43:36,910 --> 00:43:35,390 very solid base we have now because of 809 00:43:38,739 --> 00:43:36,920 the authors that you just mentioned and 810 00:43:42,279 --> 00:43:38,749 as a matter of fact I am 811 00:43:46,390 --> 00:43:42,289 extensively using the the background 812 00:43:49,269 --> 00:43:46,400 established by Duvall and Hancock for 813 00:43:51,670 --> 00:43:49,279 example in mystery of what's called the 814 00:43:54,460 --> 00:43:51,680 the message of the Sphinx so there's 815 00:43:56,499 --> 00:43:54,470 some there's some good legwork that I 816 00:43:58,779 --> 00:43:56,509 that I'm building on with the new book 817 00:44:00,220 --> 00:43:58,789 that I'm writing called archived under 818 00:44:03,579 --> 00:44:00,230 this thing so and then you mentioned 819 00:44:06,550 --> 00:44:03,589 texts here graphic evidence extremely 820 00:44:08,740 --> 00:44:06,560 important yet that's a big niche because 821 00:44:11,830 --> 00:44:08,750 many people in in the alternative 822 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:11,840 history camp they're not well-versed 823 00:44:16,990 --> 00:44:14,450 with with your graphic it's not easy - 824 00:44:19,090 --> 00:44:17,000 it's a big high barrier to entry but I 825 00:44:20,770 --> 00:44:19,100 spent the time on it for a couple of 826 00:44:23,020 --> 00:44:20,780 years I've been studying it and so I'm 827 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:23,030 beginning to use pure glyphic evidence 828 00:44:27,250 --> 00:44:24,530 and of course you know we published a 829 00:44:29,770 --> 00:44:27,260 couple of papers with with shock and 830 00:44:32,260 --> 00:44:29,780 Bauval with Robert and a shock and I've 831 00:44:34,990 --> 00:44:32,270 published three papers now on your 832 00:44:39,430 --> 00:44:35,000 diffic evidence and it really is it has 833 00:44:41,470 --> 00:44:39,440 opened up a huge field for us and 834 00:44:44,050 --> 00:44:41,480 re-examine a lot of this evidence that 835 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:44,060 that's been sort of in the territory in 836 00:44:48,580 --> 00:44:46,850 the Egyptology territory and but I think 837 00:44:50,620 --> 00:44:48,590 a lot of things have been overlooked or 838 00:44:52,420 --> 00:44:50,630 misinterpreted or alternatively 839 00:44:53,380 --> 00:44:52,430 interpreted so yeah it's a gold mine for 840 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:53,390 me online 841 00:45:00,430 --> 00:44:56,810 I'm having a great time oh well the the 842 00:45:02,710 --> 00:45:00,440 things that we we can safely check off 843 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:02,720 the list only because there is many 844 00:45:10,660 --> 00:45:06,850 evidence is that gigantic Gramps 845 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:10,670 we would see the evidence of that not 846 00:45:17,950 --> 00:45:14,330 only at the great Khufu and Khafre right 847 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:17,960 not only there on the Giza Plateau and 848 00:45:24,850 --> 00:45:21,850 Mancari but we would see that at every 849 00:45:27,730 --> 00:45:24,860 Great or every pyramid site 850 00:45:31,270 --> 00:45:27,740 yes throughout Saqqara and Andes and 851 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:31,280 that evidence clearly is not there is 852 00:45:36,790 --> 00:45:33,530 that you're bringing this up this is a 853 00:45:37,930 --> 00:45:36,800 very important question so I'm just 854 00:45:41,260 --> 00:45:37,940 going to spend a couple of minutes on 855 00:45:43,240 --> 00:45:41,270 that so there I think there is a we just 856 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:43,250 have to qualify this a little bit there 857 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:45,410 are there's obviously evidence of rams 858 00:45:51,010 --> 00:45:48,410 that were used in Egypt so we have a 859 00:45:54,190 --> 00:45:51,020 word program we have ramps were used in 860 00:45:57,130 --> 00:45:54,200 on the Giza Plateau I have stood in the 861 00:45:58,660 --> 00:45:57,140 residue of a ramp but what you're saying 862 00:46:02,020 --> 00:45:58,670 which is completely correct is that 863 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:02,030 grams can only take you so far right you 864 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:03,890 can you can build a ramp and you can 865 00:46:08,500 --> 00:46:06,290 haul stone up to ramp up to a certain 866 00:46:10,510 --> 00:46:08,510 height of the Great Pyramid or or any 867 00:46:12,730 --> 00:46:10,520 other of these pyramids but at some 868 00:46:14,890 --> 00:46:12,740 point that's it because then the ramp 869 00:46:18,490 --> 00:46:14,900 becomes bigger than the pyramid that's 870 00:46:19,079 --> 00:46:18,500 right yeah look a ramp for the second 871 00:46:24,539 --> 00:46:19,089 row of 872 00:46:26,459 --> 00:46:24,549 stones all right I get that let's say of 873 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:26,469 course third if there's decent evidence 874 00:46:32,969 --> 00:46:29,650 Jimmy that up to maybe cause thirty five 875 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:32,979 to enter it's actually ramp residue in 876 00:46:38,219 --> 00:46:35,170 the southwest corner of the Great 877 00:46:40,769 --> 00:46:38,229 Pyramid and we have the debris off ramp 878 00:46:44,069 --> 00:46:40,779 residue in the Khufu quarry it's called 879 00:46:46,140 --> 00:46:44,079 the Cooper cords behind the Sphinx and 880 00:46:47,519 --> 00:46:46,150 so there is evidence for rounds but what 881 00:46:49,109 --> 00:46:47,529 you're saying which I completely agree 882 00:46:51,509 --> 00:46:49,119 with and I don't think if your tolls is 883 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:51,519 even disagree with that you cannot build 884 00:46:55,979 --> 00:46:53,410 a ramp all the way to the top and and 885 00:46:58,799 --> 00:46:55,989 think that blocks were lifted that high 886 00:47:01,170 --> 00:46:58,809 no way there was another tech for that 887 00:47:04,589 --> 00:47:01,180 there was another tech because that ramp 888 00:47:08,729 --> 00:47:04,599 would have taken as much material as the 889 00:47:14,849 --> 00:47:08,739 Great Pyramid itself number one number 890 00:47:17,459 --> 00:47:14,859 two is the the the length of that ramp 891 00:47:18,989 --> 00:47:17,469 we're talking about miles we're not 892 00:47:20,819 --> 00:47:18,999 talking about something that's you know 893 00:47:23,339 --> 00:47:20,829 just fruit right straight up that's 894 00:47:26,489 --> 00:47:23,349 that's the second point the third point 895 00:47:31,019 --> 00:47:26,499 I think any ramps that were there were 896 00:47:35,309 --> 00:47:31,029 there to deliver dinner you know what I 897 00:47:37,739 --> 00:47:35,319 mean you know a utility thing to to go 898 00:47:42,589 --> 00:47:37,749 up and down and maybe carry wha but not 899 00:47:47,219 --> 00:47:42,599 to transport 100 ton red granite blocks 900 00:47:50,370 --> 00:47:47,229 that part I'm just I know no that's it's 901 00:47:52,499 --> 00:47:50,380 it's that's that wasn't the case and so 902 00:47:55,410 --> 00:47:52,509 that like I said that's one of the 903 00:47:59,400 --> 00:47:55,420 things that we can check off the list it 904 00:48:01,259 --> 00:47:59,410 brings up more questions certainly but 905 00:48:03,509 --> 00:48:01,269 but that is one that I'm pretty safe 906 00:48:05,190 --> 00:48:03,519 about saying you know what no they they 907 00:48:06,690 --> 00:48:05,200 didn't build ramps and before somebody 908 00:48:09,809 --> 00:48:06,700 says okay well then what did they use 909 00:48:12,599 --> 00:48:09,819 well okay we can discuss that but 910 00:48:16,229 --> 00:48:12,609 following the dogma and that's the part 911 00:48:19,390 --> 00:48:16,239 that irritates me the most is that Egypt 912 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:19,400 and Egypt ologists 913 00:48:26,230 --> 00:48:23,090 the the antiquity division of the 914 00:48:28,750 --> 00:48:26,240 government there has pushed this for so 915 00:48:31,450 --> 00:48:28,760 long that most people have tapped out 916 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:31,460 they they just buy the story these days 917 00:48:36,940 --> 00:48:33,650 and that's it nobody wants to go back 918 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:36,950 and push it do they yeah that's it yes 919 00:48:40,870 --> 00:48:39,050 the problem is you can't really do 920 00:48:43,270 --> 00:48:40,880 science the way you do that in other 921 00:48:45,670 --> 00:48:43,280 fields where you you challenge that this 922 00:48:49,620 --> 00:48:45,680 is what I come from yeah I'm a molecular 923 00:48:52,720 --> 00:48:49,630 geneticist by training from my PhD work 924 00:48:55,030 --> 00:48:52,730 when I went to the MD ph.d program and 925 00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:55,040 so the PhD aspect of that I did a lot of 926 00:48:58,720 --> 00:48:56,930 molecular genetics so you in those days 927 00:49:00,640 --> 00:48:58,730 you ask a question with any other branch 928 00:49:01,930 --> 00:49:00,650 of science you ask a question you 929 00:49:04,420 --> 00:49:01,940 challenge something and you do an 930 00:49:07,240 --> 00:49:04,430 experiment to test it so for us this is 931 00:49:09,430 --> 00:49:07,250 just normal business that we falsify 932 00:49:11,980 --> 00:49:09,440 things or confirm things but in 933 00:49:15,970 --> 00:49:11,990 Egyptology you can't do that so we 934 00:49:19,150 --> 00:49:15,980 applied for a permit to probe things you 935 00:49:23,170 --> 00:49:19,160 know a year ago and it was just it was 936 00:49:27,310 --> 00:49:23,180 rejected not really Nicks and a reason 937 00:49:30,550 --> 00:49:27,320 given other than we don't right now sign 938 00:49:32,530 --> 00:49:30,560 any permits for Giza only if it's the 939 00:49:34,060 --> 00:49:32,540 Delta so they want research in the Delta 940 00:49:35,740 --> 00:49:34,070 and they were on research in southern 941 00:49:39,070 --> 00:49:35,750 Egypt so they have they want the money 942 00:49:40,900 --> 00:49:39,080 to flow into those areas and Giza is 943 00:49:42,790 --> 00:49:40,910 basically locked up it's my main mark 944 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:42,800 Lee noise I'm you know I met mark Lenoir 945 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:44,330 last August we sat next to each other 946 00:49:47,830 --> 00:49:46,130 for an hour and a half was a great 947 00:49:49,660 --> 00:49:47,840 conversation so he of course he's at the 948 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:49,670 Giza Plateau he's got some he's got a 949 00:49:55,990 --> 00:49:53,570 great new project and but it's people 950 00:50:01,060 --> 00:49:56,000 like him there's a Japanese group under 951 00:50:03,610 --> 00:50:01,070 Yosh what's his name I think he's I 952 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:03,620 think he was doing something in the West 953 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:04,970 field where they thought they found 954 00:50:09,970 --> 00:50:07,610 something underground next to immunise 955 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:09,980 Mustapha but these people they've locked 956 00:50:14,590 --> 00:50:12,170 us up there's no way that somebody like 957 00:50:17,290 --> 00:50:14,600 me or Robert Schoch or is gonna get in 958 00:50:21,190 --> 00:50:17,300 there unless unless you bring a lot of 959 00:50:23,530 --> 00:50:21,200 money do you think that Lerner is ever 960 00:50:25,720 --> 00:50:23,540 going to and he's getting up there in 961 00:50:28,750 --> 00:50:25,730 years now too as well he's not he's not 962 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:28,760 young anymore but do you think he would 963 00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:33,050 ever Bend he okay that good 964 00:50:36,820 --> 00:50:34,730 I have to tell you I had a great 965 00:50:40,180 --> 00:50:36,830 interaction with him he gave a seminar 966 00:50:42,970 --> 00:50:40,190 afterwards he actually deferred it's 967 00:50:47,110 --> 00:50:42,980 amazing do in the talk he showed an 968 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:47,120 image of a couch and lion that is from 969 00:50:50,980 --> 00:50:48,530 the wadi al-jarf you've probably heard 970 00:50:52,870 --> 00:50:50,990 about this from Pierre Tallis group 971 00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:52,880 right at the French group they were X 972 00:51:00,940 --> 00:50:57,890 they were reexamining this Harbor Inn by 973 00:51:02,890 --> 00:51:00,950 the Red Sea and yeah and they found some 974 00:51:04,390 --> 00:51:02,900 inscriptions some some symbols and among 975 00:51:06,150 --> 00:51:04,400 those symbols is a couch in lyon 976 00:51:08,950 --> 00:51:06,160 basically looks just like his things and 977 00:51:11,140 --> 00:51:08,960 soleil and lena show that picture and 978 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:11,150 then he said in front of audiences as 979 00:51:15,970 --> 00:51:13,370 minutia talked about or should speak to 980 00:51:20,710 --> 00:51:15,980 this and he didn't say it with sarcasm 981 00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:20,720 he he it was a it was a fair deference I 982 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:22,730 would say and even he mentioned Graham 983 00:51:26,500 --> 00:51:24,170 Hancock's name he mentioned Robert 984 00:51:29,260 --> 00:51:26,510 Chuck's name and he but he didn't say it 985 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:29,270 in any sort of disrespect for a 986 00:51:34,330 --> 00:51:31,970 sarcastic way and I respected him for 987 00:51:37,540 --> 00:51:34,340 that I so when you ask your question is 988 00:51:39,850 --> 00:51:37,550 I think in his later years now he is I 989 00:51:40,990 --> 00:51:39,860 think he is sort of respecting his own 990 00:51:44,980 --> 00:51:41,000 roots because you know he came from 991 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:44,990 Edgar Cayce his inspiration right so I 992 00:51:49,060 --> 00:51:46,970 think he's more balanced now in those 993 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:49,070 days when he was battling with Robert 994 00:51:53,410 --> 00:51:51,050 Schoch he was you know gung-ho and he 995 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:53,420 had just published his thesis and you 996 00:51:57,310 --> 00:51:55,130 know he may be and then also the other 997 00:51:59,200 --> 00:51:57,320 thing is he felt maybe insulted because 998 00:52:01,060 --> 00:51:59,210 the geologist is not respecting the 999 00:52:03,940 --> 00:52:01,070 geological evidence and of course vice 1000 00:52:06,580 --> 00:52:03,950 versa so it's just bad blood going back 1001 00:52:09,570 --> 00:52:06,590 and forth and and he was a fighter but 1002 00:52:11,830 --> 00:52:09,580 when I met him I thought he was great I 1003 00:52:14,110 --> 00:52:11,840 have nothing bad to say about him 1004 00:52:17,290 --> 00:52:14,120 completely I've learned a lot from him I 1005 00:52:19,660 --> 00:52:17,300 wish it would be great if Robert Schoch 1006 00:52:22,420 --> 00:52:19,670 and mark Lehner could put their heads 1007 00:52:25,720 --> 00:52:22,430 together and design a few experiments to 1008 00:52:28,930 --> 00:52:25,730 confirm or falsify by these things it 1009 00:52:30,610 --> 00:52:28,940 would be fantastic I you know but I 1010 00:52:32,740 --> 00:52:30,620 don't know if it's bad man now that'll 1011 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:32,750 never happen and I'll tell you I'll tell 1012 00:52:41,470 --> 00:52:36,290 you why let's not lose sight of one one 1013 00:52:43,330 --> 00:52:41,480 thing learner and the geologists at the 1014 00:52:47,590 --> 00:52:43,340 convention when 1015 00:52:50,470 --> 00:52:47,600 when gallery John Anthony West and 1016 00:52:51,910 --> 00:52:50,480 Robert Jacques John Anthony West jaws 1017 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:51,920 stayed out in the audience the 1018 00:52:56,700 --> 00:52:53,570 presentation was done by Robert Schoch 1019 00:52:59,380 --> 00:52:56,710 because he was a certified professional 1020 00:53:02,110 --> 00:52:59,390 geologist at this conference in San 1021 00:53:04,420 --> 00:53:02,120 Diego but what was presented at that 1022 00:53:06,220 --> 00:53:04,430 conference when they said we're 1023 00:53:09,010 --> 00:53:06,230 suggesting that they've got new evidence 1024 00:53:11,650 --> 00:53:09,020 to move the dating back of the Sphinx 1025 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:11,660 another five seven thousand years to 1026 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:13,970 around 10,000 BC because and they gave 1027 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:14,690 their reasons 1028 00:53:23,110 --> 00:53:18,970 well lerner and the crew said hey 1029 00:53:25,780 --> 00:53:23,120 everything started in Giza there wasn't 1030 00:53:28,780 --> 00:53:25,790 any other megalithic structures anywhere 1031 00:53:31,720 --> 00:53:28,790 on this planet not a hundred years down 1032 00:53:34,630 --> 00:53:31,730 a thousand years before the Sphinx you 1033 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:34,640 show us that then we can have a 1034 00:53:38,350 --> 00:53:36,890 discussion God Jimmy I wish I'd been 1035 00:53:41,260 --> 00:53:38,360 there because I would have raised my arm 1036 00:53:43,210 --> 00:53:41,270 and I said listen dr. lader the evidence 1037 00:53:45,340 --> 00:53:43,220 there's already evidence of something 1038 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:45,350 it's called chroma Jimmy call chroma 1039 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:49,850 excavated south of menkaure's causeway 1040 00:53:57,010 --> 00:53:53,570 and he found he found debris from 1041 00:53:58,870 --> 00:53:57,020 structures that were there before the 1042 00:53:59,560 --> 00:53:58,880 Khufu Klan ever set foot on the Giza 1043 00:54:01,450 --> 00:53:59,570 Plateau 1044 00:54:03,850 --> 00:54:01,460 there's Cedars ceiling there's a ceiling 1045 00:54:05,890 --> 00:54:03,860 with symbols they are not here glyphic 1046 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:05,900 that's right and yeah and I showed this 1047 00:54:11,230 --> 00:54:08,570 I was the I had the copy of this and I 1048 00:54:12,340 --> 00:54:11,240 asked Lena is that have you found 1049 00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:12,350 anything out because they're looking 1050 00:54:15,910 --> 00:54:14,570 they're sifting through Cromer's old 1051 00:54:17,590 --> 00:54:15,920 it's a chroma 1052 00:54:19,990 --> 00:54:17,600 when chroma did his excavation he wasn't 1053 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:20,000 you know not quite up to standard he was 1054 00:54:24,010 --> 00:54:21,890 a little sloppy with this technique and 1055 00:54:26,590 --> 00:54:24,020 mark Lehner is very very meticulous so 1056 00:54:29,290 --> 00:54:26,600 he's going through that site again and 1057 00:54:30,850 --> 00:54:29,300 they're finding ceilings actually and I 1058 00:54:32,050 --> 00:54:30,860 said can I come and look at this knees 1059 00:54:35,530 --> 00:54:32,060 of course you're more than welcome to 1060 00:54:37,570 --> 00:54:35,540 come all these things right and so I bet 1061 00:54:40,210 --> 00:54:37,580 you there's going to be some symbols 1062 00:54:42,820 --> 00:54:40,220 that will prove that that statement at 1063 00:54:44,410 --> 00:54:42,830 that time was not correct so and he I 1064 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:44,420 don't know if he just didn't know at the 1065 00:54:49,990 --> 00:54:46,850 time but technically speaking up that 1066 00:54:51,850 --> 00:54:50,000 was even incorrect in 1990 and 1991 1067 00:54:54,230 --> 00:54:51,860 windows when that conference was held 1068 00:54:57,529 --> 00:54:54,240 and then of course 1069 00:55:00,789 --> 00:54:57,539 the big news happened in 1995 yeah I go 1070 00:55:03,140 --> 00:55:00,799 back to Tempe gobekli tepe now had they 1071 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:03,150 well of course it goes without saying 1072 00:55:10,370 --> 00:55:06,690 right hindsight had they had gobekli 1073 00:55:14,029 --> 00:55:10,380 tepe strapped to their hip in 1992 for 1074 00:55:15,549 --> 00:55:14,039 this conference then that question would 1075 00:55:19,670 --> 00:55:15,559 have never been raised 1076 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:19,680 right but gobekli tepe 1077 00:55:27,799 --> 00:55:22,890 did change the landscape and the reason 1078 00:55:29,029 --> 00:55:27,809 for that it's not as much as of course 1079 00:55:30,650 --> 00:55:29,039 we're gonna find ancient megalithic 1080 00:55:32,839 --> 00:55:30,660 sites and we're gonna find things that 1081 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:32,849 are really old and probably a lot older 1082 00:55:36,019 --> 00:55:33,930 than gobekli tepe 1083 00:55:38,089 --> 00:55:36,029 we haven't found everything that has 1084 00:55:39,380 --> 00:55:38,099 ever been built on this planet we know 1085 00:55:44,089 --> 00:55:39,390 that part right 1086 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:44,099 the part that is is so negative is that 1087 00:55:48,349 --> 00:55:46,770 all of those geologists were adamant 1088 00:55:51,230 --> 00:55:48,359 about it and we're adamant about 1089 00:55:54,140 --> 00:55:51,240 embarrassing shocked and embarrassing 1090 00:55:56,599 --> 00:55:54,150 John Anthony West they named and they 1091 00:55:59,210 --> 00:55:56,609 turned out to be wrong so that's why 1092 00:56:02,089 --> 00:55:59,220 today Robert Schoch one of the nicest 1093 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:02,099 guys that I know I mean him and his wife 1094 00:56:07,730 --> 00:56:04,890 I mean the coolest of the cool oh my god 1095 00:56:09,559 --> 00:56:07,740 we had such a good time in in gobekli 1096 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:09,569 tepe we we started filming the 1097 00:56:15,740 --> 00:56:12,210 documentary this is going to be a great 1098 00:56:18,589 --> 00:56:15,750 film Jimmy so I met Bill Cody you know 1099 00:56:20,779 --> 00:56:18,599 the director who he's alright yeah 1100 00:56:22,250 --> 00:56:20,789 mister you have to thinks it was so cool 1101 00:56:22,970 --> 00:56:22,260 he's sitting you know for dinner and 1102 00:56:25,490 --> 00:56:22,980 then you hear all these 1103 00:56:27,500 --> 00:56:25,500 behind-the-scenes stories from 25 years 1104 00:56:29,539 --> 00:56:27,510 ago with Charlton s and then it was just 1105 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:29,549 that it was great and so we started 1106 00:56:33,470 --> 00:56:31,410 filming and I had never been to Gobekli 1107 00:56:35,569 --> 00:56:33,480 Tepe and it's a great honor to be 1108 00:56:38,029 --> 00:56:35,579 introduced by Robert Schoch himself so 1109 00:56:39,740 --> 00:56:38,039 he we were filming as we're walking up 1110 00:56:41,630 --> 00:56:39,750 and we're having a conversation about 1111 00:56:43,069 --> 00:56:41,640 the site and they're filming while we're 1112 00:56:45,849 --> 00:56:43,079 walking up and this is the first time 1113 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:45,859 that I am seeing this at firsthand 1114 00:56:51,109 --> 00:56:49,650 imagine yeah so what was that like Manu 1115 00:56:53,990 --> 00:56:51,119 what was that like 1116 00:56:56,930 --> 00:56:54,000 you mean the site yeah walking up for 1117 00:56:58,760 --> 00:56:56,940 the first time yeah it is my jaw dropped 1118 00:57:02,450 --> 00:56:58,770 I I mean you know of course we published 1119 00:57:04,849 --> 00:57:02,460 a paper about the symbols but it's you 1120 00:57:06,859 --> 00:57:04,859 know it's a little bit yeah I was it's 1121 00:57:07,460 --> 00:57:06,869 not the same obviously right but when I 1122 00:57:09,860 --> 00:57:07,470 walked 1123 00:57:13,250 --> 00:57:09,870 by I just I took me a few seconds just 1124 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:13,260 to kind of stop gas fee and and then 1125 00:57:18,530 --> 00:57:15,090 Robert took you know they have they have 1126 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:18,540 sort of this walkway now it's elevated 1127 00:57:23,510 --> 00:57:20,250 up higher so you can't really walk 1128 00:57:27,530 --> 00:57:23,520 through the site like before and we were 1129 00:57:30,740 --> 00:57:27,540 walked around and and then I just I just 1130 00:57:32,870 --> 00:57:30,750 have to take this in for a while the the 1131 00:57:35,660 --> 00:57:32,880 three-dimensional aspect of this is 1132 00:57:37,580 --> 00:57:35,670 something that pictures no way a picture 1133 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:37,590 will do this justice because some of 1134 00:57:43,100 --> 00:57:40,650 these enclosures are lower at a lower 1135 00:57:45,230 --> 00:57:43,110 level for example enclosures see which 1136 00:57:48,620 --> 00:57:45,240 has the it's the where the symbol 1137 00:57:51,050 --> 00:57:48,630 predominance is the the boar that it's 1138 00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:51,060 lower set then enclosure D which is the 1139 00:57:55,310 --> 00:57:53,610 oldest one and that's behind it on the 1140 00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:55,320 north side and they all have their own 1141 00:58:01,760 --> 00:57:57,690 levels and it's an interesting even that 1142 00:58:04,190 --> 00:58:01,770 is sort of like a terrace arrangement so 1143 00:58:06,890 --> 00:58:04,200 yeah time we were filming and then we 1144 00:58:09,620 --> 00:58:06,900 had a conversation about we started 1145 00:58:12,910 --> 00:58:09,630 talking about enclosure D so it was it 1146 00:58:16,340 --> 00:58:12,920 was very freezing cold but yeah and then 1147 00:58:19,250 --> 00:58:16,350 and then one of the governors from one 1148 00:58:21,470 --> 00:58:19,260 of the Turkish city governments came and 1149 00:58:24,170 --> 00:58:21,480 then he came he was on film and we 1150 00:58:25,430 --> 00:58:24,180 started talking with him and it was a 1151 00:58:27,740 --> 00:58:25,440 great day Jimmy you should have been 1152 00:58:33,340 --> 00:58:27,750 there what yeah I need to take a break 1153 00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:33,350 right here and I had I called Robert and 1154 00:58:40,190 --> 00:58:36,930 and Katie yes and I didn't get a reply 1155 00:58:42,650 --> 00:58:40,200 back so then I texted and and he he 1156 00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:42,660 wrote me back he goes he's like church I 1157 00:58:47,510 --> 00:58:45,810 mean I'm at gobekli tepe man don't don't 1158 00:58:51,380 --> 00:58:47,520 be angry I'm out here 1159 00:58:53,990 --> 00:58:51,390 oh man cuz he knows I mean I think 1160 00:58:56,420 --> 00:58:54,000 everybody knows the passion that I have 1161 00:58:59,270 --> 00:58:56,430 for gobekli tepe let's take our break 1162 00:59:01,580 --> 00:58:59,280 right here doctor manu's say Sade is 1163 00:59:04,700 --> 00:59:01,590 here we will be back after this short 1164 00:59:08,089 --> 00:59:04,710 break tonight we are talking ancient 1165 00:59:14,089 --> 00:59:08,099 Egypt the great pyramid Giza 1166 00:59:16,189 --> 00:59:14,099 in ancient Egypt Egyptian technology and 1167 00:59:17,590 --> 00:59:16,199 there you go I will be right back after 1168 00:59:34,380 --> 00:59:17,600 this short break stay with us 1169 00:59:38,740 --> 00:59:36,660 [Music] 1170 00:59:40,660 --> 00:59:38,750 this is fade to black 1171 00:59:44,349 --> 00:59:40,670 with 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--> 01:04:06,240 GameChanger radio network and the one 1273 01:04:13,250 --> 01:04:09,220 and only kgr a radio the planet 1274 01:04:13,540 --> 01:04:13,260 [Music] 1275 01:04:28,870 --> 01:04:13,550 [Applause] 1276 01:04:31,239 --> 01:04:28,880 [Music] 1277 01:04:33,099 --> 01:04:31,249 welcome back fade to black I'm your host 1278 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:33,109 Amy Church our guest tonight dr. my news 1279 01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:36,410 says that a is here we are discussing 1280 01:04:42,190 --> 01:04:38,930 ancient Egypt technology the great 1281 01:04:45,519 --> 01:04:42,200 pyramid construction techniques and how 1282 01:04:47,859 --> 01:04:45,529 things got done there his research in 1283 01:04:51,430 --> 01:04:47,869 his papers over the years have been 1284 01:04:53,950 --> 01:04:51,440 something that has forced me to stop and 1285 01:04:56,710 --> 01:04:53,960 and take another look and rethink these 1286 01:05:03,309 --> 01:04:56,720 things and and I'm really glad my new 1287 01:05:06,099 --> 01:05:03,319 that you are picking up the this task it 1288 01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:06,109 has been attempted so many times and 1289 01:05:11,710 --> 01:05:09,650 before we move forward I want to go back 1290 01:05:16,180 --> 01:05:11,720 for a second I want to make one other 1291 01:05:20,729 --> 01:05:16,190 point when we discuss the dogma man the 1292 01:05:23,859 --> 01:05:20,739 dogma is this is this theywill 1293 01:05:26,140 --> 01:05:23,869 Egyptologist an archaeologist will 1294 01:05:28,269 --> 01:05:26,150 always talk about the construction of 1295 01:05:31,329 --> 01:05:28,279 the Great Pyramid taking place over 20 1296 01:05:33,910 --> 01:05:31,339 years and 10 to 20 thousand workers that 1297 01:05:36,519 --> 01:05:33,920 were not slaves that built it okay all 1298 01:05:40,180 --> 01:05:36,529 right now there's a problem with that 1299 01:05:45,390 --> 01:05:40,190 because they are leaving out one key 1300 01:05:50,469 --> 01:05:45,400 thing and that is both Khufu and Khafre 1301 01:05:51,999 --> 01:05:50,479 were built at the same time and they 1302 01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:52,009 leave that part out 1303 01:06:00,009 --> 01:05:56,170 they don't say whoa we actually built to 1304 01:06:03,059 --> 01:06:00,019 leave that part out and if you go and 1305 01:06:06,190 --> 01:06:03,069 this is the thing little detective work 1306 01:06:09,009 --> 01:06:06,200 go and look at Capri go and look at 1307 01:06:13,359 --> 01:06:09,019 Khufu look at the dates when they were 1308 01:06:15,579 --> 01:06:13,369 built and they are identical they leave 1309 01:06:18,849 --> 01:06:15,589 that part out because if they did 1310 01:06:21,579 --> 01:06:18,859 mention that we're already questioning 1311 01:06:26,319 --> 01:06:21,589 this 20-year period right it's just too 1312 01:06:29,109 --> 01:06:26,329 much to to to swallow but to actually 1313 01:06:33,430 --> 01:06:29,119 have done it twice to at the same time 1314 01:06:34,959 --> 01:06:33,440 two for the price of one that raises so 1315 01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:34,969 many questions I can't even 1316 01:06:39,609 --> 01:06:37,130 so it wasn't 20,000 workers it was 1317 01:06:42,670 --> 01:06:39,619 40,000 so it wasn't two and a half 1318 01:06:46,390 --> 01:06:42,680 million stones it was five million 1319 01:06:49,690 --> 01:06:46,400 they didn't level to limestone Hill it's 1320 01:06:52,990 --> 01:06:49,700 or one they leveled too right 1321 01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:53,000 all of these things come into play they 1322 01:06:58,180 --> 01:06:55,610 leave that part out and it's something 1323 01:07:01,810 --> 01:06:58,190 that makes me very angry they don't want 1324 01:07:03,700 --> 01:07:01,820 us to question it and if we did it would 1325 01:07:06,130 --> 01:07:03,710 throw everything out for them because 1326 01:07:10,150 --> 01:07:06,140 they've been sticking to this dogma for 1327 01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:10,160 so many years so I do have some evidence 1328 01:07:16,390 --> 01:07:13,250 to share that maybe most people don't 1329 01:07:18,130 --> 01:07:16,400 know about and that kind of supports at 1330 01:07:21,430 --> 01:07:18,140 least on the sink side what you're 1331 01:07:24,790 --> 01:07:21,440 saying so this is mark Lehner published 1332 01:07:28,450 --> 01:07:24,800 his thesis had his thesis put on an 1333 01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:28,460 online a couple of years ago and so and 1334 01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:30,290 so I took a look and it's what the 1335 01:07:35,650 --> 01:07:32,090 interesting thing is which I also didn't 1336 01:07:38,500 --> 01:07:35,660 know is that the valley temple was built 1337 01:07:42,790 --> 01:07:38,510 in three phases and as a matter of fact 1338 01:07:44,350 --> 01:07:42,800 the whole back section didn't exist in 1339 01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:44,360 the beginning it was just the front 1340 01:07:47,140 --> 01:07:46,490 portion that where the two gates are 1341 01:07:49,660 --> 01:07:47,150 mm-hmm 1342 01:07:52,020 --> 01:07:49,670 and then the t-shaped Hall was built and 1343 01:07:56,470 --> 01:07:52,030 then in the third phase they built the 1344 01:07:59,290 --> 01:07:56,480 those huge block enclosure right and 1345 01:08:03,220 --> 01:07:59,300 then and and then they took away those 1346 01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:03,230 blocks too to expand the Sphinx temple 1347 01:08:08,020 --> 01:08:05,690 so that doesn't make sense to you so 1348 01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:08,030 it's to your point that it doesn't make 1349 01:08:14,170 --> 01:08:10,010 sense that this was all planned in one 1350 01:08:15,700 --> 01:08:14,180 big project because they've they changed 1351 01:08:19,180 --> 01:08:15,710 it right they build it and then they 1352 01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:19,190 they toured part of it down to to change 1353 01:08:22,990 --> 01:08:21,410 things too so that's the first thing the 1354 01:08:25,510 --> 01:08:23,000 second thing is Jimmy is even more 1355 01:08:28,510 --> 01:08:25,520 amazing so there was a Swiss surveyor 1356 01:08:29,770 --> 01:08:28,520 that went to the Sphinx temple in the 1357 01:08:32,590 --> 01:08:29,780 70s Herbert Ricker 1358 01:08:35,290 --> 01:08:32,600 he wrote a great great report very 1359 01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:35,300 meticulous and so guess what he found on 1360 01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:37,730 the distinct on the ground of the Sphinx 1361 01:08:42,430 --> 01:08:39,410 temple there are two gutters rain 1362 01:08:45,550 --> 01:08:42,440 gutters one on the north side and one on 1363 01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:45,560 the south side and those that though the 1364 01:08:49,810 --> 01:08:48,170 south gutter is plugged okay and then 1365 01:08:51,310 --> 01:08:49,820 they built the Sphinx thing simple over 1366 01:08:53,740 --> 01:08:51,320 that so what does that mean that means 1367 01:08:56,470 --> 01:08:53,750 there was something there before that 1368 01:08:58,390 --> 01:08:56,480 hat that was using that rain gutter 1369 01:09:01,210 --> 01:08:58,400 then that something was torn down and 1370 01:09:05,470 --> 01:09:01,220 then the the Sphinx temper was built 1371 01:09:07,420 --> 01:09:05,480 over it okay so so that what that shows 1372 01:09:10,660 --> 01:09:07,430 is that there were things there before 1373 01:09:12,849 --> 01:09:10,670 and did this conundrum that you're 1374 01:09:15,700 --> 01:09:12,859 bringing up it's it's a it's well taken 1375 01:09:18,099 --> 01:09:15,710 okay and of course many of us think that 1376 01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:18,109 there were pre-existing structures on 1377 01:09:23,410 --> 01:09:21,410 which the UH the Old Kingdom Kings built 1378 01:09:26,410 --> 01:09:23,420 so they were using something that was 1379 01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:26,420 already there and they they enhanced it 1380 01:09:30,670 --> 01:09:28,730 let's say or refurbished it or whatever 1381 01:09:33,460 --> 01:09:30,680 you want to call it and that might 1382 01:09:36,430 --> 01:09:33,470 explain how they were able to build this 1383 01:09:39,010 --> 01:09:36,440 whole system in 50 60 years I don't 1384 01:09:43,059 --> 01:09:39,020 think it's 20 years but maybe 50 years 1385 01:09:45,039 --> 01:09:43,069 60 years but but where you draw the line 1386 01:09:47,499 --> 01:09:45,049 what was there before I walk came after 1387 01:09:50,260 --> 01:09:47,509 I I don't know I it's it's difficult to 1388 01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:50,270 pinpoint because but so john paul 1389 01:09:54,850 --> 01:09:53,930 approval and i we're trying to right now 1390 01:09:57,070 --> 01:09:54,860 we're working on the interior 1391 01:10:00,490 --> 01:09:57,080 architecture and we're looking for the 1392 01:10:02,260 --> 01:10:00,500 theme and we found it I can't talk about 1393 01:10:04,270 --> 01:10:02,270 it today but I can the good news is we 1394 01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:04,280 have a theme we identified it's amazing 1395 01:10:11,410 --> 01:10:08,690 and what we're finding is that there was 1396 01:10:13,660 --> 01:10:11,420 a pre-existing port there was something 1397 01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:13,670 that were before and the Great Pyramid 1398 01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:18,850 was designed on on that using a 1399 01:10:23,650 --> 01:10:21,890 architectural theme that was present in 1400 01:10:26,890 --> 01:10:23,660 that pre-existing structure so it's 1401 01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:26,900 fascinating well what was okay I 1402 01:10:31,540 --> 01:10:29,330 understand if you you know you're 1403 01:10:33,910 --> 01:10:31,550 waiting for the production and and to 1404 01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:33,920 move forward and then at that point and 1405 01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:35,690 there's other people that are involved 1406 01:10:42,490 --> 01:10:40,570 but but what are you suggesting the 1407 01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:42,500 pre-existing was or were we talking 1408 01:10:47,410 --> 01:10:44,930 about the Sphinx temple are we talking 1409 01:10:51,370 --> 01:10:47,420 about the construction between the Nile 1410 01:10:53,770 --> 01:10:51,380 and and the temple complex and the 1411 01:10:57,190 --> 01:10:53,780 causeway going up to is that the 1412 01:11:01,570 --> 01:10:57,200 pre-existing situation that was used as 1413 01:11:03,670 --> 01:11:01,580 a theme I think I I think there was the 1414 01:11:05,170 --> 01:11:03,680 fourth there's definitely archaeological 1415 01:11:07,930 --> 01:11:05,180 evidence that there was something before 1416 01:11:09,879 --> 01:11:07,940 the Sphinx temporal came yes and the 1417 01:11:13,810 --> 01:11:09,889 Sphinx temple of course we think 1418 01:11:15,340 --> 01:11:13,820 is already prehistoric okay so that 1419 01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:15,350 means there was something pre pre his 1420 01:11:20,050 --> 01:11:18,290 story right this history are sitting on 1421 01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:20,060 that Terrace now here's a good example 1422 01:11:25,570 --> 01:11:22,850 how you know Egyptologists have 1423 01:11:27,459 --> 01:11:25,580 interpreted the sequence so mark Lehner 1424 01:11:28,990 --> 01:11:27,469 was reasoning that they cut the terrace 1425 01:11:31,180 --> 01:11:29,000 right the Sphinx temple sits on a 1426 01:11:33,609 --> 01:11:31,190 terrace so what he's saying is they cut 1427 01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:33,619 this terrace and that Terrace has a 1428 01:11:38,410 --> 01:11:36,170 ninety degree angle with a northern wall 1429 01:11:40,660 --> 01:11:38,420 of the valley temple okay so what milena 1430 01:11:42,729 --> 01:11:40,670 is reasoning is because there's a ninety 1431 01:11:45,790 --> 01:11:42,739 degree angle so one had to come before 1432 01:11:49,870 --> 01:11:45,800 the other and so in his model the valley 1433 01:11:51,490 --> 01:11:49,880 temple comes comes first right and then 1434 01:11:54,430 --> 01:11:51,500 comes the Sphinx temple but you can 1435 01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:54,440 argue the opposite way you could say the 1436 01:11:57,580 --> 01:11:55,850 terrace was cut and there was no valley 1437 01:11:59,500 --> 01:11:57,590 temple at first there was and there was 1438 01:12:01,510 --> 01:11:59,510 a structure sitting there which is what 1439 01:12:03,550 --> 01:12:01,520 these rain gutters were used for and 1440 01:12:06,310 --> 01:12:03,560 then that structure was tear torn down 1441 01:12:08,709 --> 01:12:06,320 and then the Sphinx temple came right so 1442 01:12:11,350 --> 01:12:08,719 of course I think what was there has to 1443 01:12:13,780 --> 01:12:11,360 do with the archive okay which which 1444 01:12:15,609 --> 01:12:13,790 this is going to be the book it's gonna 1445 01:12:17,859 --> 01:12:15,619 be a killer book Jimmy I have some 1446 01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:17,869 amazing I have some amazing stuff that 1447 01:12:22,450 --> 01:12:20,330 I've found so there was an I am 1448 01:12:24,430 --> 01:12:22,460 convinced at this point there was an 1449 01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:24,440 archive there there was something stored 1450 01:12:29,919 --> 01:12:26,570 because I actually found something that 1451 01:12:31,510 --> 01:12:29,929 was in there okay so so there was 1452 01:12:33,820 --> 01:12:31,520 something there and there may have been 1453 01:12:35,950 --> 01:12:33,830 a shrine or some temple or something 1454 01:12:38,979 --> 01:12:35,960 that was sitting on that terrace using 1455 01:12:41,919 --> 01:12:38,989 those rain gutters and then the next 1456 01:12:44,169 --> 01:12:41,929 generation came they tore that down and 1457 01:12:47,350 --> 01:12:44,179 they started building these things and 1458 01:12:48,790 --> 01:12:47,360 the temples and everything to answer you 1459 01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:48,800 asked a question directly what about the 1460 01:12:52,359 --> 01:12:50,810 causeway I think the causeway yes 1461 01:12:54,879 --> 01:12:52,369 there's a good chance that that's also 1462 01:12:56,740 --> 01:12:54,889 older and of course if you read origin 1463 01:12:59,640 --> 01:12:56,750 of this thing super violent shock saying 1464 01:13:02,350 --> 01:12:59,650 that this whole complex was built 1465 01:13:03,939 --> 01:13:02,360 together but all of that in prehistory 1466 01:13:07,510 --> 01:13:03,949 so they're saying that the pyramid 1467 01:13:09,820 --> 01:13:07,520 temple up higher the the causeway the 1468 01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:09,830 the valley temple the Sphinx temple and 1469 01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:11,570 it's things all of those five structures 1470 01:13:15,100 --> 01:13:14,570 they were all built as a complex but it 1471 01:13:17,109 --> 01:13:15,110 happened 1472 01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:17,119 Zep tepi basically that's what they're 1473 01:13:22,420 --> 01:13:20,449 saying and Andrew Collins said something 1474 01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:22,430 to me 1475 01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:25,970 he said when you stand down in the 1476 01:13:32,620 --> 01:13:28,850 southeast section of the Giza Plateau 1477 01:13:36,340 --> 01:13:32,630 south of the Great Sphinx and you look 1478 01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:36,350 at the construction of what is going on 1479 01:13:42,570 --> 01:13:39,530 down there he said you can tell it is 1480 01:13:46,300 --> 01:13:42,580 obvious that that is ancient ancient 1481 01:13:47,980 --> 01:13:46,310 that is a whole nother time period than 1482 01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:47,990 anything else that you can look at it 1483 01:13:53,230 --> 01:13:50,930 the Giza complex which is already miss 1484 01:13:55,420 --> 01:13:53,240 dated he said but when you go down there 1485 01:13:58,570 --> 01:13:55,430 you're looking at stuff Jay says Jimmy 1486 01:14:01,270 --> 01:13:58,580 it's gotta be you know 10,000 12,000 1487 01:14:03,580 --> 01:14:01,280 years old yeah this is what this is what 1488 01:14:05,500 --> 01:14:03,590 Chuck said right so when West brought 1489 01:14:07,780 --> 01:14:05,510 him over and Jacques looked at it two 1490 01:14:09,670 --> 01:14:07,790 minutes he knew that constat those 1491 01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:09,680 blocks in you know the temp valley 1492 01:14:14,590 --> 01:14:12,650 temple Sphinx temple and the Sphinx 1493 01:14:17,020 --> 01:14:14,600 itself and erosion on the walls this is 1494 01:14:19,210 --> 01:14:17,030 not new this is not Old Kingdom and then 1495 01:14:21,730 --> 01:14:19,220 but this and again I have to emphasize 1496 01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:21,740 this because many people don't notice 1497 01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:24,170 that shocked he didn't just come two 1498 01:14:28,450 --> 01:14:25,730 minutes and said oh yeah this is water 1499 01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:28,460 erosion and so this had to be rain from 1500 01:14:34,750 --> 01:14:31,730 you know 10,000 BC he actually 1501 01:14:37,180 --> 01:14:34,760 corroborated this impression with 1502 01:14:40,540 --> 01:14:37,190 seismic refraction data so him and 1503 01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:40,550 Thomas de beki tapped out the ditch the 1504 01:14:46,050 --> 01:14:41,930 ground around his finger 1505 01:14:49,900 --> 01:14:46,060 and they they collected some very very 1506 01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:49,910 reliable data that that measured the 1507 01:14:54,940 --> 01:14:52,610 amount of erosion under the surface in 1508 01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:54,950 the rock with time so the longer the 1509 01:14:59,230 --> 01:14:56,810 more time passes the more that rocky 1510 01:15:02,230 --> 01:14:59,240 roads and it has a seismic signature 1511 01:15:05,470 --> 01:15:02,240 okay and and they had a control and I 1512 01:15:07,150 --> 01:15:05,480 mean it was really well done and and 1513 01:15:09,150 --> 01:15:07,160 they covered to all their ends and 1514 01:15:12,490 --> 01:15:09,160 everything and that those data 1515 01:15:14,230 --> 01:15:12,500 corroborate exactly the the the 1516 01:15:16,510 --> 01:15:14,240 above-ground impression at chalk at 1517 01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:16,520 initially because you know I mean he was 1518 01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:18,770 in his late 30s he was a little bit 1519 01:15:24,700 --> 01:15:22,250 maybe he didn't want to he knew that 1520 01:15:26,170 --> 01:15:24,710 what he was saying was was outrageous so 1521 01:15:27,850 --> 01:15:26,180 to speak right so he was extremely 1522 01:15:31,230 --> 01:15:27,860 conservative she's saying you know what 1523 01:15:34,030 --> 01:15:31,240 I'm going to date this to 7,000 BC 1524 01:15:35,870 --> 01:15:34,040 conservatively okay but if you really 1525 01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:35,880 analyze the data correctly 1526 01:15:40,700 --> 01:15:37,650 which is it's not a straight line it's 1527 01:15:43,430 --> 01:15:40,710 actually more a it's called a 1528 01:15:45,290 --> 01:15:43,440 logarithmic change so it basically the 1529 01:15:47,660 --> 01:15:45,300 longer it goes the the smaller the 1530 01:15:49,730 --> 01:15:47,670 increments right so that means that that 1531 01:15:51,950 --> 01:15:49,740 means it's actually older okay so and 1532 01:15:54,440 --> 01:15:51,960 when he comfortably interprets the data 1533 01:15:57,100 --> 01:15:54,450 you go back to 10,000 BC and that's what 1534 01:16:00,350 --> 01:15:57,110 the erosion says so he had two different 1535 01:16:03,140 --> 01:16:00,360 completely independent observations that 1536 01:16:05,870 --> 01:16:03,150 corroborated this dis dating and and 1537 01:16:08,480 --> 01:16:05,880 each yes and it was just dismissed and 1538 01:16:10,430 --> 01:16:08,490 and I looked at I looked at the reasons 1539 01:16:12,860 --> 01:16:10,440 why geologists are trying to dismiss 1540 01:16:15,980 --> 01:16:12,870 this they for example they ignored the 1541 01:16:17,390 --> 01:16:15,990 negative control for on the Jimmy when 1542 01:16:19,820 --> 01:16:17,400 you go on the other side of the causeway 1543 01:16:21,950 --> 01:16:19,830 there are some rock-cut mastabas they 1544 01:16:24,140 --> 01:16:21,960 have exactly the same I mean on a 1545 01:16:26,660 --> 01:16:24,150 geologist okay but I looked at this with 1546 01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:26,670 Robert and Robert confirmed it we felt 1547 01:16:30,440 --> 01:16:28,410 like those are the same rock layers as 1548 01:16:32,930 --> 01:16:30,450 on this fing site and there is no 1549 01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:32,940 vertical erosion on that side okay it's 1550 01:16:37,580 --> 01:16:35,130 and next time any of you or you 1551 01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:37,590 listeners go to Egypt ask to a guard to 1552 01:16:42,350 --> 01:16:40,530 take you to the mastaba of kyyy okay so 1553 01:16:48,020 --> 01:16:42,360 you can see what your own eyes or go to 1554 01:16:50,210 --> 01:16:48,030 the go to Ken cow s Mustapha and look at 1555 01:16:52,580 --> 01:16:50,220 the rocks there because that's all rock 1556 01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:52,590 from the site you you can see the same 1557 01:16:56,090 --> 01:16:54,090 rock from which the head of the Sphinx 1558 01:16:58,430 --> 01:16:56,100 was carved sitting on top of that 1559 01:17:00,470 --> 01:16:58,440 formation so you have obviously the same 1560 01:17:02,450 --> 01:17:00,480 type of limestone but it doesn't have 1561 01:17:04,340 --> 01:17:02,460 any vertical erosion so this is a 1562 01:17:05,660 --> 01:17:04,350 perfect negative negative control right 1563 01:17:07,070 --> 01:17:05,670 and in science you have a negative 1564 01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:07,080 control and then you have the expander 1565 01:17:10,250 --> 01:17:08,970 experimental data right and because you 1566 01:17:12,980 --> 01:17:10,260 have to have something to compare it to 1567 01:17:14,210 --> 01:17:12,990 and this is not out there Jimmy that's 1568 01:17:15,740 --> 01:17:14,220 why I'm glad that we're having this 1569 01:17:17,870 --> 01:17:15,750 conversation because I want people to 1570 01:17:19,550 --> 01:17:17,880 understand the power of the evidence 1571 01:17:21,770 --> 01:17:19,560 that Shah collected okay 1572 01:17:23,480 --> 01:17:21,780 it's not just that he read swallow the 1573 01:17:26,060 --> 01:17:23,490 Lubitz walked up two minutes oh yeah 1574 01:17:26,690 --> 01:17:26,070 this is I know it's not like that all 1575 01:17:29,450 --> 01:17:26,700 right 1576 01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:29,460 and see the thing is back then you're 1577 01:17:33,530 --> 01:17:31,530 right shocked in his 30s he didn't want 1578 01:17:35,810 --> 01:17:33,540 to upset too many people he tried to 1579 01:17:39,380 --> 01:17:35,820 stay on the conserve today he doesn't 1580 01:17:42,290 --> 01:17:39,390 give a crap and there's another there's 1581 01:17:44,390 --> 01:17:42,300 another part to this too it's not like 1582 01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:44,400 Robert and I hope he's listening right 1583 01:17:49,250 --> 01:17:46,650 now it's not like Robert hasn't 1584 01:17:53,460 --> 01:17:49,260 disagreed I 1585 01:17:57,290 --> 01:17:53,470 exactly I it's not like he hasn't 1586 01:17:59,790 --> 01:17:57,300 disagreed with his his fellow 1587 01:18:02,280 --> 01:17:59,800 researchers out there because he doesn't 1588 01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:02,290 if he doesn't see it 1589 01:18:09,870 --> 01:18:06,010 he'll just call it and and if he doesn't 1590 01:18:13,310 --> 01:18:09,880 agree it's because he bases it on his 1591 01:18:16,730 --> 01:18:13,320 education and what he has learned in his 1592 01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:16,740 very he severed it's not going by 1593 01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:20,410 ideology or preformed ideas no he goes 1594 01:18:26,490 --> 01:18:24,250 with the evidence absolutely yeah not to 1595 01:18:28,590 --> 01:18:26,500 I want to go back to go back Lee tapi I 1596 01:18:30,270 --> 01:18:28,600 want to tie both of these together we're 1597 01:18:35,370 --> 01:18:30,280 going to do that in a second but like 1598 01:18:38,610 --> 01:18:35,380 with you know Japan you Nguyen a good 1599 01:18:42,390 --> 01:18:38,620 unit gooning where he went 1600 01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:42,400 and scuba dived yeah and and now look I 1601 01:18:47,490 --> 01:18:44,530 think it's a fascinating structure and 1602 01:18:49,250 --> 01:18:47,500 you don't have to go down very far it's 1603 01:18:52,140 --> 01:18:49,260 right there it's nearly at sea level 1604 01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:52,150 it's lit up and you can go and check it 1605 01:18:57,660 --> 01:18:55,690 out and it looks if you didn't know you 1606 01:19:00,240 --> 01:18:57,670 would think that that was man-made and 1607 01:19:03,150 --> 01:19:00,250 it still may be okay it still may be but 1608 01:19:06,270 --> 01:19:03,160 Robert is like no it's not and let me 1609 01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:06,280 tell you why well of course to be 1610 01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:09,610 sensational about it he could he could 1611 01:19:16,380 --> 01:19:12,970 agree or he could suggest that it was 1612 01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:16,390 man-made and that it was done it 20,000 1613 01:19:21,450 --> 01:19:18,850 BC when's you know sea levels were 1614 01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:21,460 different but he doesn't you know when 1615 01:19:28,110 --> 01:19:24,010 it comes to the Sphinx and gobekli tepe 1616 01:19:32,310 --> 01:19:28,120 and and the Giza Plateau he's basing it 1617 01:19:35,100 --> 01:19:32,320 on what he knows and I know I can tell 1618 01:19:36,900 --> 01:19:35,110 he walked right up at the Sphinx and 1619 01:19:39,780 --> 01:19:36,910 took a look and went well okay 1620 01:19:41,460 --> 01:19:39,790 that ain't right Yeah right and the 1621 01:19:44,130 --> 01:19:41,470 problem you want the problem is Jimmy is 1622 01:19:46,140 --> 01:19:44,140 that in nowadays people they use 1623 01:19:47,970 --> 01:19:46,150 plausibility arguments instead of 1624 01:19:50,550 --> 01:19:47,980 actually looking at people don't want to 1625 01:19:52,260 --> 01:19:50,560 they don't wanna you know challenge the 1626 01:19:54,210 --> 01:19:52,270 paradigm it's just a lot of politics 1627 01:19:56,790 --> 01:19:54,220 going on but they make they make 1628 01:19:59,010 --> 01:19:56,800 arguments based on opinions based on 1629 01:20:00,990 --> 01:19:59,020 plausibility probability that's the 1630 01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:01,000 worst way to argue in science okay 1631 01:20:03,359 --> 01:20:01,570 because you never 1632 01:20:07,020 --> 01:20:03,369 get anything you're not going to change 1633 01:20:09,839 --> 01:20:07,030 the prevailing model if you if you make 1634 01:20:11,879 --> 01:20:09,849 probability arguments okay so you have 1635 01:20:13,350 --> 01:20:11,889 to look at the evidence and that you 1636 01:20:15,209 --> 01:20:13,360 have to couldn't you're confronted with 1637 01:20:19,370 --> 01:20:15,219 evidence you can't just brush it under 1638 01:20:22,530 --> 01:20:19,380 the carpet right now when you are 1639 01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:22,540 walking around the Giza Plateau and 1640 01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:25,210 you're contemplating these theories 1641 01:20:34,379 --> 01:20:28,810 right you know ten thousand the lining 1642 01:20:38,100 --> 01:20:34,389 up of Taurus and and Orion and and the 1643 01:20:40,500 --> 01:20:38,110 the last known dates for rain and and 1644 01:20:42,959 --> 01:20:40,510 said okay all right so you're thinking 1645 01:20:45,169 --> 01:20:42,969 this could be you know ten thousand 1646 01:20:48,450 --> 01:20:45,179 years old but it's a whole nother 1647 01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:48,460 ballgame when you're at gobekli tepe 1648 01:20:55,169 --> 01:20:51,730 and you're walking around on a site that 1649 01:20:56,910 --> 01:20:55,179 is ten thousand years old 1650 01:20:59,580 --> 01:20:56,920 yeah that's got to have a whole 1651 01:21:04,399 --> 01:20:59,590 different feeling to it is how majestic 1652 01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:04,409 how crazy was that because that is ten 1653 01:21:10,770 --> 01:21:08,050 thousand years old and maybe even older 1654 01:21:12,990 --> 01:21:10,780 well that's it that's that's exactly 1655 01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:13,000 right because what you just said right 1656 01:21:20,330 --> 01:21:16,570 the dating it comes from the sort of 1657 01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:20,340 half hazardous walls that were used to 1658 01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:23,650 repair the circle so they took mortar 1659 01:21:28,020 --> 01:21:25,449 samples the German archaeological 1660 01:21:31,050 --> 01:21:28,030 Institute of the debris the filled 1661 01:21:32,729 --> 01:21:31,060 debris and the mortar from those small 1662 01:21:34,740 --> 01:21:32,739 blocks that were sort of put together to 1663 01:21:37,260 --> 01:21:34,750 make a wall and though in the enclosure 1664 01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:37,270 D that dates to around that that the 1665 01:21:41,850 --> 01:21:40,570 bracket is the centers around 9500 BC so 1666 01:21:44,010 --> 01:21:41,860 what does I mean about the big blocks 1667 01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:44,020 right they could be older than that and 1668 01:21:46,919 --> 01:21:45,610 that's in fact what we're thinking we're 1669 01:21:49,500 --> 01:21:46,929 thinking those could because are 1670 01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:49,510 probably older and the people that built 1671 01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:51,449 those small stone walls were maybe 1672 01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:54,130 refurbishing repairing just like down at 1673 01:21:58,830 --> 01:21:56,650 the swings right when they did granite 1674 01:22:00,870 --> 01:21:58,840 granite blocks to cover the valley 1675 01:22:02,850 --> 01:22:00,880 temple and they ground down the 1676 01:22:04,620 --> 01:22:02,860 limestone blocks for to make fittings 1677 01:22:06,620 --> 01:22:04,630 right it's the same idea they were 1678 01:22:08,669 --> 01:22:06,630 basically refurbishing remodeling 1679 01:22:10,109 --> 01:22:08,679 pre-existing structures and so yes I go 1680 01:22:13,379 --> 01:22:10,119 back to Tepe that's what we think may 1681 01:22:14,990 --> 01:22:13,389 have happened and then okay so this is 1682 01:22:18,100 --> 01:22:15,000 what I enjoy 1683 01:22:20,510 --> 01:22:18,110 so much when we are talking about 1684 01:22:25,310 --> 01:22:20,520 gobekli tepe and the possibility of 1685 01:22:26,480 --> 01:22:25,320 something else being out there an older 1686 01:22:30,530 --> 01:22:26,490 sure-enough 1687 01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:30,540 bond cuckoo Terra has now been revealed 1688 01:22:36,770 --> 01:22:35,250 and now it's dating is 11,000 12,000 1689 01:22:41,540 --> 01:22:36,780 13,000 years old 1690 01:22:44,750 --> 01:22:41,550 it's had conservatively estimated right 1691 01:22:46,490 --> 01:22:44,760 now to be a few thousand years older 1692 01:22:50,510 --> 01:22:46,500 than gobekli tepe 1693 01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:50,520 and you look and the quotes from them 1694 01:22:54,830 --> 01:22:52,770 you know that it's much older than go 1695 01:22:57,740 --> 01:22:54,840 back to a tepee and you look at this and 1696 01:22:59,870 --> 01:22:57,750 you look at these photographs and it's 1697 01:23:04,700 --> 01:22:59,880 not that far from gobekli tepe by the 1698 01:23:08,660 --> 01:23:04,710 way you look at it and it is it is just 1699 01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:08,670 as beautiful as as Gobekli Tepe and it 1700 01:23:13,220 --> 01:23:10,410 makes you wonder how many more sites 1701 01:23:15,740 --> 01:23:13,230 like this are not only in this area of 1702 01:23:17,750 --> 01:23:15,750 northern Syria and the Turkish border 1703 01:23:21,140 --> 01:23:17,760 you know southern Turkey modern-day 1704 01:23:24,710 --> 01:23:21,150 Turkey who built them and how many more 1705 01:23:27,410 --> 01:23:24,720 sites are like this around the world you 1706 01:23:32,630 --> 01:23:27,420 know where the gold - is Armenia I know 1707 01:23:34,910 --> 01:23:32,640 that's the money amazing I I saw this 1708 01:23:37,100 --> 01:23:34,920 report recently you know where the map 1709 01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:37,110 of Iran is looks like a cat right yeah 1710 01:23:42,110 --> 01:23:40,050 so between the two ears is clue that's 1711 01:23:44,740 --> 01:23:42,120 on the left ear is where Yerevan is 1712 01:23:48,440 --> 01:23:44,750 right yeah and so if you go south east 1713 01:23:50,450 --> 01:23:48,450 down the head of the cat on the Armenia 1714 01:23:53,990 --> 01:23:50,460 side there is a cave I think it's called 1715 01:23:55,340 --> 01:23:54,000 a rainy rainy cave and in that cave for 1716 01:23:58,670 --> 01:23:55,350 a so they for they first of all they 1717 01:24:01,520 --> 01:23:58,680 found the first leather shoe in history 1718 01:24:03,620 --> 01:24:01,530 so far in prehistory a leather shoe they 1719 01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:03,630 found a skirt first skirt in history and 1720 01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:05,930 they found the oldest winemaking 1721 01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:09,210 facility facility in that I don't know 1722 01:24:13,370 --> 01:24:11,250 if it's the same cave but here's now 1723 01:24:14,300 --> 01:24:13,380 here's the interesting thing in the in 1724 01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:14,310 that cave 1725 01:24:20,270 --> 01:24:17,130 they had these jars and inside of the 1726 01:24:23,150 --> 01:24:20,280 jar were skulls okay and of course you 1727 01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:23,160 know that skull cult was very widespread 1728 01:24:31,250 --> 01:24:28,090 in in that area they were based on my 1729 01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:31,260 understanding of Ian Ian hottest 1730 01:24:35,790 --> 01:24:33,730 interpretation is that they had sort of 1731 01:24:38,399 --> 01:24:35,800 like photographs of deceased right there 1732 01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:38,409 it's a it's a memorabilia we want to 1733 01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:40,690 remember them after they pass away and 1734 01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:42,250 they were doing the same thing with 1735 01:24:46,229 --> 01:24:43,810 skulls they were plastering them 1736 01:24:47,490 --> 01:24:46,239 painting them handing them around and in 1737 01:24:51,030 --> 01:24:47,500 this cave 1738 01:24:54,689 --> 01:24:51,040 they have these child child sized skulls 1739 01:24:56,820 --> 01:24:54,699 inside of these containers and it's 1740 01:24:59,459 --> 01:24:56,830 reminiscent of the same culture as you 1741 01:25:01,649 --> 01:24:59,469 had where the t pillars are right in 1742 01:25:02,939 --> 01:25:01,659 diwali jewelry in all these places so 1743 01:25:05,359 --> 01:25:02,949 there is a connection there so i think 1744 01:25:07,890 --> 01:25:05,369 that's it's a very important bridge 1745 01:25:11,850 --> 01:25:07,900 armenia that's i think were you going to 1746 01:25:14,250 --> 01:25:11,860 find the bridge between 10 to 10,000 bc 1747 01:25:16,589 --> 01:25:14,260 12 out not to fields and then sort of 1748 01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:16,599 the intermediate phase when you then and 1749 01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:19,090 then when you hit the Neolithic pottery 1750 01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:21,250 Neolithic and then later the Bronze Age 1751 01:25:26,669 --> 01:25:23,770 that that whole there's still a gap and 1752 01:25:30,450 --> 01:25:26,679 that's I think Armenia is the key now 1753 01:25:34,589 --> 01:25:30,460 Armenia is the key I asked last month 1754 01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:34,599 this hit-the hit-the media I spoke about 1755 01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:37,449 it and it's just kind of went away but 1756 01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:42,730 the Armenian Church in Venice Italy was 1757 01:25:52,050 --> 01:25:48,610 gifted from Armenia a bronze sword and 1758 01:25:54,689 --> 01:25:52,060 so these these gifts they they went to 1759 01:25:58,830 --> 01:25:54,699 the University of Venice and they were 1760 01:26:00,089 --> 01:25:58,840 looking at these things and and so 1761 01:26:04,950 --> 01:26:00,099 they're looking after sort of than well 1762 01:26:08,700 --> 01:26:04,960 wait a minute this sword is made of pure 1763 01:26:13,430 --> 01:26:08,710 bronze yes and that doesn't make any 1764 01:26:18,229 --> 01:26:13,440 sense because of what came later right 1765 01:26:22,410 --> 01:26:18,239 they think that this is the oldest sword 1766 01:26:26,629 --> 01:26:22,420 ever found yes now this is what is key 1767 01:26:30,300 --> 01:26:26,639 here they know where the metal came from 1768 01:26:33,419 --> 01:26:30,310 and it was a gift from Armenia but you 1769 01:26:33,930 --> 01:26:33,429 bring up one of the best points gobekli 1770 01:26:37,830 --> 01:26:33,940 tepe 1771 01:26:41,070 --> 01:26:37,840 bon kook Lootera that region is not 1772 01:26:43,050 --> 01:26:41,080 Turkey that region is 1773 01:26:45,810 --> 01:26:43,060 ancient Armenia that's all of their 1774 01:26:50,910 --> 01:26:45,820 money labs right scription stats right 1775 01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:50,920 it's all Armenia alright and and without 1776 01:26:58,050 --> 01:26:54,610 going into carahunge and and some of the 1777 01:27:00,090 --> 01:26:58,060 other ancient sites that go from west to 1778 01:27:03,150 --> 01:27:00,100 east all the way back to Yerevan and 1779 01:27:06,750 --> 01:27:03,160 beyond that is all Armenia today's 1780 01:27:09,630 --> 01:27:06,760 modern-day Turkey has nothing to do with 1781 01:27:12,990 --> 01:27:09,640 gobekli tepe all in Iran there's an 1782 01:27:16,020 --> 01:27:13,000 inscription by dialouge okay it's it 1783 01:27:18,870 --> 01:27:16,030 names Armenia specifically okay on the 1784 01:27:21,870 --> 01:27:18,880 base tun inscription and that's so 1785 01:27:23,910 --> 01:27:21,880 that's about six century BC and then six 1786 01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:23,920 hundred years earlier than that you have 1787 01:27:29,940 --> 01:27:27,250 Solomon's er right the Assyrian King and 1788 01:27:32,900 --> 01:27:29,950 he has an inscription referring to what 1789 01:27:36,030 --> 01:27:32,910 I think it's called wha - right the the 1790 01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:36,040 Bronze Age name so he refers to that 1791 01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:39,610 area as the aqua - culture and and of 1792 01:27:43,710 --> 01:27:41,170 course that's the culture around Mount 1793 01:27:45,210 --> 01:27:43,720 Ararat right and so yeah so there is 1794 01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:45,220 actually a name for it so if there's a 1795 01:27:50,820 --> 01:27:47,170 name for it that means it was it was a 1796 01:27:53,340 --> 01:27:50,830 it was a kingdom or a land that was sort 1797 01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:53,350 of United right so yeah absolutely 1798 01:27:58,260 --> 01:27:55,930 yes I mean yep yeah and and carahunge 1799 01:27:59,760 --> 01:27:58,270 now let's go back to the dating because 1800 01:28:01,860 --> 01:27:59,770 we're gonna swing this back over to 1801 01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:01,870 geesa there's a method to my madness 1802 01:28:09,860 --> 01:28:04,930 yeah carahunge means Stonehenge in 1803 01:28:14,940 --> 01:28:09,870 Armenian yes and that site is dated at 1804 01:28:17,580 --> 01:28:14,950 7000 BC that site which is a Stonehenge 1805 01:28:21,510 --> 01:28:17,590 just not just like Stonehenge but it's a 1806 01:28:24,090 --> 01:28:21,520 stone circle that was with holes and the 1807 01:28:26,940 --> 01:28:24,100 pillars to line up to look at stars and 1808 01:28:29,340 --> 01:28:26,950 for astronomy now this is that what is 1809 01:28:33,480 --> 01:28:29,350 important about that that is three 1810 01:28:36,660 --> 01:28:33,490 thousand four thousand years older than 1811 01:28:40,790 --> 01:28:36,670 Stonehenge yes and we cannot lose sight 1812 01:28:45,480 --> 01:28:40,800 of Bangkok Lootera and gobekli tepe 1813 01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:45,490 dating over 7,000 years older than the 1814 01:28:51,780 --> 01:28:48,730 previous oldest site on the planet which 1815 01:28:57,540 --> 01:28:51,790 is the Giza Plateau and Saqqara 1816 01:29:00,360 --> 01:28:57,550 it's 7,000 years well guess guess where 1817 01:29:02,340 --> 01:29:00,370 the genetics come from the builders and 1818 01:29:13,820 --> 01:29:02,350 Stonehenge in England guess where they 1819 01:29:18,300 --> 01:29:13,830 come from the Kardashians I had to do it 1820 01:29:20,700 --> 01:29:18,310 yes yes I had to do it let's take our 1821 01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:20,710 break right here and we'll be right back 1822 01:29:24,810 --> 01:29:22,570 after this short break we're gonna swing 1823 01:29:27,300 --> 01:29:24,820 now we've got the dating established 1824 01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:27,310 that obviously something 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black I'm yours 1911 01:34:20,830 --> 01:34:16,320 Jimmy church our guest tonight my new 1912 01:34:27,160 --> 01:34:20,840 doctor by news saves a day saves a day 1913 01:34:30,890 --> 01:34:27,170 now this is what is so funny I have had 1914 01:34:34,250 --> 01:34:30,900 issues with saying your name for so many 1915 01:34:37,879 --> 01:34:34,260 years and now this is what's funny I've 1916 01:34:44,209 --> 01:34:37,889 got it down now but do I do I do I do I 1917 01:34:46,339 --> 01:34:44,219 do it but man man man so funny how I 1918 01:34:50,390 --> 01:34:46,349 struggle with that but this is the the 1919 01:34:54,500 --> 01:34:50,400 the the struggle is real when it comes 1920 01:34:57,979 --> 01:34:54,510 to ancient Egypt and going back to 1921 01:35:00,500 --> 01:34:57,989 Stargate for a second the the reason why 1922 01:35:04,489 --> 01:35:00,510 I think that scene is so important and 1923 01:35:08,179 --> 01:35:04,499 so pivotal is that we can raise the 1924 01:35:10,429 --> 01:35:08,189 questions we can raise them but when 1925 01:35:13,129 --> 01:35:10,439 somebody wants the answer right okay 1926 01:35:16,429 --> 01:35:13,139 well okay if they didn't if they okay 1927 01:35:20,149 --> 01:35:16,439 but who did and and what and and we have 1928 01:35:23,390 --> 01:35:20,159 to stop it well we don't know that's not 1929 01:35:27,379 --> 01:35:23,400 what we want to hear we've got to start 1930 01:35:29,870 --> 01:35:27,389 to get to these real answers and and a 1931 01:35:31,729 --> 01:35:29,880 lot of it is speculation but I think 1932 01:35:35,299 --> 01:35:31,739 it's okay to speculate who we need to 1933 01:35:37,069 --> 01:35:35,309 push things into the middle of the table 1934 01:35:41,419 --> 01:35:37,079 you know we've gotta address all of 1935 01:35:44,290 --> 01:35:41,429 these I firmly believe I will never take 1936 01:35:47,870 --> 01:35:44,300 it as far as aliens built the pyramids I 1937 01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:47,880 you know et built the pyramid I can't go 1938 01:35:58,540 --> 01:35:54,090 there but I can I am very very secure in 1939 01:36:02,179 --> 01:35:58,550 a statement like an ancient civilization 1940 01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:02,189 with high technology built those 1941 01:36:11,270 --> 01:36:07,530 pyramids thousands of years before the 1942 01:36:14,029 --> 01:36:11,280 Pharaohs were a thing and and and I am I 1943 01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:14,039 am very confident in making those 1944 01:36:18,859 --> 01:36:16,170 statements where are you with something 1945 01:36:20,929 --> 01:36:18,869 like that today yeah so I that's why I'm 1946 01:36:23,899 --> 01:36:20,939 focused on the on the architecture 1947 01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:23,909 because that's where you that's it's 1948 01:36:26,060 --> 01:36:24,810 very Tanger 1949 01:36:28,580 --> 01:36:26,070 well Jimmy what you're saying when you 1950 01:36:31,550 --> 01:36:28,590 look at the the the engineering of it 1951 01:36:33,020 --> 01:36:31,560 there is still a way that it could have 1952 01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:33,030 happened when they say it could have 1953 01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:35,370 happened but the ideas there's a lot of 1954 01:36:40,490 --> 01:36:37,650 authors in this field and they make all 1955 01:36:42,820 --> 01:36:40,500 these interesting observations and some 1956 01:36:45,140 --> 01:36:42,830 of these are really startling and 1957 01:36:47,630 --> 01:36:45,150 they're very difficult to explain away 1958 01:36:50,510 --> 01:36:47,640 I'm I'm beginning to fit so this last 1959 01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:50,520 thing that I was looking at yeah that I 1960 01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:52,530 I was starting to wonder is somebody 1961 01:36:57,320 --> 01:36:55,170 playing with us and we if are we in a 1962 01:36:59,930 --> 01:36:57,330 simulation if let's say we are in this 1963 01:37:02,810 --> 01:36:59,940 is a simulated universe let's say okay 1964 01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:02,820 what would the designer have planted the 1965 01:37:08,270 --> 01:37:05,730 Great Pyramid for us to figure out that 1966 01:37:09,670 --> 01:37:08,280 this is a simulation okay so I'm 1967 01:37:13,580 --> 01:37:09,680 beginning to ask those kind of questions 1968 01:37:16,610 --> 01:37:13,590 or let's say it's a real universe is it 1969 01:37:17,900 --> 01:37:16,620 is the design does it come from does it 1970 01:37:19,940 --> 01:37:17,910 come from another place in you this is 1971 01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:19,950 what Robert Bauval was entertaining in 1972 01:37:25,100 --> 01:37:22,290 cosmic womb that it was a there's a 1973 01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:25,110 message sent or like you're saying it's 1974 01:37:28,730 --> 01:37:26,970 a previous cycle of a civilization that 1975 01:37:30,830 --> 01:37:28,740 what got wiped out and there were 1976 01:37:32,570 --> 01:37:30,840 advanced and they had those ideas those 1977 01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:32,580 insights and they stored that 1978 01:37:38,330 --> 01:37:34,650 information and that information was 1979 01:37:40,940 --> 01:37:38,340 tapped into by dynastic Egypt and they 1980 01:37:42,380 --> 01:37:40,950 built like Roberts wrote and cosmic room 1981 01:37:44,870 --> 01:37:42,390 they built a machine they didn't know 1982 01:37:46,250 --> 01:37:44,880 exactly what it was supposed to do but 1983 01:37:47,570 --> 01:37:46,260 they had the blueprints and they just 1984 01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:47,580 build it because there was something 1985 01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:48,810 that they thought came from the gods 1986 01:37:54,410 --> 01:37:52,410 right so yes so there are some features 1987 01:37:58,430 --> 01:37:54,420 about the design that's just 1988 01:38:00,860 --> 01:37:58,440 mind-boggling that I'm gonna get into 1989 01:38:05,270 --> 01:38:00,870 that in from you minutes let's actually 1990 01:38:06,770 --> 01:38:05,280 go there now what when you start to push 1991 01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:06,780 your chips to the middle of the table 1992 01:38:16,190 --> 01:38:09,690 worthy you know where do you start 1993 01:38:19,730 --> 01:38:16,200 yes right well so there is if you if you 1994 01:38:22,340 --> 01:38:19,740 look this we only have one relief from 1995 01:38:26,090 --> 01:38:22,350 the New Kingdom that shows the great 1996 01:38:29,210 --> 01:38:26,100 pyramid behind the Sphinx okay 1997 01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:29,220 and it shows it with a peak okay all the 1998 01:38:34,490 --> 01:38:31,650 way to the tip and and the second 1999 01:38:37,109 --> 01:38:34,500 pyramid next to it the g2 also has a 2000 01:38:38,729 --> 01:38:37,119 peak right and so 2001 01:38:40,109 --> 01:38:38,739 as you know there's a lot of authors in 2002 01:38:43,020 --> 01:38:40,119 the field who think there was a sphere 2003 01:38:44,220 --> 01:38:43,030 or somewhere it was a flat top and you 2004 01:38:47,910 --> 01:38:44,230 know there's people that think it was 2005 01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:47,920 sort of a and and I an abstract summit 2006 01:38:52,260 --> 01:38:50,530 all these different ideas right so I was 2007 01:38:55,050 --> 01:38:52,270 thinking how well how we gonna get 2008 01:38:57,689 --> 01:38:55,060 around this this relief okay and so 2009 01:38:59,100 --> 01:38:57,699 there is a paper published by jean-paul 2010 01:39:02,129 --> 01:38:59,110 baba 2011 01:39:06,359 --> 01:39:02,139 he's an architect he published it I 2012 01:39:08,010 --> 01:39:06,369 think in 2017 and he made a very it's a 2013 01:39:09,510 --> 01:39:08,020 beautiful analysis he looked at the 2014 01:39:12,030 --> 01:39:09,520 inland you know about this in then right 2015 01:39:13,950 --> 01:39:12,040 at looks like eight sided right yeah so 2016 01:39:16,859 --> 01:39:13,960 for those of you in the audience that 2017 01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:16,869 don't notice the the the walls of the 2018 01:39:22,260 --> 01:39:20,290 thirty of the core masonry look indented 2019 01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:22,270 it looks like a concavity so under 2020 01:39:25,709 --> 01:39:24,010 certain lighting it looks like there's 2021 01:39:28,830 --> 01:39:25,719 eight sides to the pyramid 2022 01:39:31,350 --> 01:39:28,840 now just to clear up any confusion the 2023 01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:31,360 casing was not indented and I got this 2024 01:39:36,330 --> 01:39:34,090 firsthand from Glenn - who was later 2025 01:39:38,729 --> 01:39:36,340 surveyor he looked at that and said no 2026 01:39:41,010 --> 01:39:38,739 the casing was not indented so what that 2027 01:39:44,100 --> 01:39:41,020 means is the indentation was hidden it 2028 01:39:46,379 --> 01:39:44,110 was in the core so what John Paul did he 2029 01:39:49,379 --> 01:39:46,389 said okay if we take this to the logical 2030 01:39:51,930 --> 01:39:49,389 extension up the pyramid to the summit 2031 01:39:53,700 --> 01:39:51,940 what are we gonna get well if you shrink 2032 01:39:55,919 --> 01:39:53,710 the pyramid as you go to the top if you 2033 01:39:57,870 --> 01:39:55,929 shrink the walls faster than the corners 2034 01:40:00,800 --> 01:39:57,880 what you can end up with this is a cross 2035 01:40:03,419 --> 01:40:00,810 at the top like a cardinal cross 2036 01:40:07,050 --> 01:40:03,429 diagonally but the walls are going to 2037 01:40:10,169 --> 01:40:07,060 have shrunk me away right and and then 2038 01:40:11,939 --> 01:40:10,179 then then you're left with a space to 2039 01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:11,949 get to the peak and what is that space 2040 01:40:16,919 --> 01:40:14,170 well this is the big surprise you can 2041 01:40:20,189 --> 01:40:16,929 fit a sphere into that space into that 2042 01:40:23,629 --> 01:40:20,199 theoretical space with a radius now hold 2043 01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:23,639 yourself Jimmy of one meter exactly okay 2044 01:40:28,890 --> 01:40:26,290 this is what John Paul published okay so 2045 01:40:31,140 --> 01:40:28,900 he's saying how could this be okay they 2046 01:40:33,510 --> 01:40:31,150 did the ancient Egyptians are not 2047 01:40:36,180 --> 01:40:33,520 supposed to have known the meter the 2048 01:40:37,979 --> 01:40:36,190 meter is supposedly was invented in the 2049 01:40:39,930 --> 01:40:37,989 late 18th century by the French right 2050 01:40:43,410 --> 01:40:39,940 and so here we have an architectural 2051 01:40:45,209 --> 01:40:43,420 design that this indent and you just 2052 01:40:47,370 --> 01:40:45,219 take this to its logical conclusion you 2053 01:40:50,390 --> 01:40:47,380 come up with a meter okay so I knew 2054 01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:50,400 about this from jean-paul and I had 2055 01:40:55,190 --> 01:40:53,730 read the paper and a few months ago all 2056 01:40:57,500 --> 01:40:55,200 of a sudden I thought to myself you know 2057 01:41:00,440 --> 01:40:57,510 what this is like a hologram this is 2058 01:41:03,520 --> 01:41:00,450 basically an A two-dimensional feature 2059 01:41:06,500 --> 01:41:03,530 at the base there's an indentation and 2060 01:41:08,750 --> 01:41:06,510 and if you take this to it into a 2061 01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:08,760 three-dimensional tell us if you 2062 01:41:14,930 --> 01:41:11,850 telescope this up in 3d you basically 2063 01:41:17,240 --> 01:41:14,940 get a virtual theoretical summit that's 2064 01:41:18,710 --> 01:41:17,250 a sphere and it has a 1 meter radius 2065 01:41:21,290 --> 01:41:18,720 even though it's not physically actually 2066 01:41:23,690 --> 01:41:21,300 there so that is like a hologram right 2067 01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:23,700 you have hologram is basically you can 2068 01:41:27,590 --> 01:41:25,770 you can reach with your hand through 2069 01:41:30,020 --> 01:41:27,600 it's not it doesn't have any substance 2070 01:41:35,750 --> 01:41:30,030 but it's an image that generated from a 2071 01:41:37,610 --> 01:41:35,760 flat surface okay so and so I but that 2072 01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:37,620 was all I had on this there's nothing 2073 01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:40,650 nothing else so it turns out a couple of 2074 01:41:45,290 --> 01:41:43,530 years ago a Japanese researcher that 2075 01:41:47,630 --> 01:41:45,300 works with Leonor he took a drone up 2076 01:41:51,500 --> 01:41:47,640 there and did very fine analysis of the 2077 01:41:54,500 --> 01:41:51,510 summit okay and he measured it and he 2078 01:41:56,420 --> 01:41:54,510 counted every single block Jimi up there 2079 01:41:58,550 --> 01:41:56,430 so when you walk up to Pyramid 201 2080 01:42:00,620 --> 01:41:58,560 courses when you put your foot on the 2081 01:42:03,500 --> 01:42:00,630 platform up there where the tripod used 2082 01:42:05,270 --> 01:42:03,510 to be you have 86 stone blocks and 2083 01:42:07,940 --> 01:42:05,280 they're all different sizes they no 2084 01:42:09,860 --> 01:42:07,950 rhyme or reason to them but there's 86 2085 01:42:12,290 --> 01:42:09,870 of them and then there's it there's a 2086 01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:12,300 two more little courses and that's 2087 01:42:18,380 --> 01:42:15,930 another 14 blocks I think so what is 2088 01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:18,390 this if you take the surface area of 2089 01:42:22,640 --> 01:42:20,610 that platform and I just did that on 2090 01:42:24,320 --> 01:42:22,650 just some hunch okay I took the surface 2091 01:42:27,350 --> 01:42:24,330 area in meters because that's how it was 2092 01:42:29,260 --> 01:42:27,360 measured and you divide it by 86 guess 2093 01:42:33,700 --> 01:42:29,270 what you get you get the golden ratio 2094 01:42:34,850 --> 01:42:33,710 you do and that wasn't there a 2095 01:42:38,990 --> 01:42:34,860 pyramidion 2096 01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:39,000 that was on display I don't know if it 2097 01:42:44,690 --> 01:42:42,090 was the red pyramid yes 2098 01:42:47,450 --> 01:42:44,700 that was hot that is missing but it was 2099 01:42:49,970 --> 01:42:47,460 out there for years right yes correct 2100 01:42:54,050 --> 01:42:49,980 and they had the golden ratio it had to 2101 01:42:57,980 --> 01:42:54,060 go and and it was also I believe wasn't 2102 01:42:59,960 --> 01:42:57,990 it didn't it have a meter ratio too as 2103 01:43:04,080 --> 01:42:59,970 well yes it did 2104 01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:04,090 right yeah exactly right so 2105 01:43:10,460 --> 01:43:07,570 that that size pure million if it was 2106 01:43:12,900 --> 01:43:10,470 that size you would still have another 2107 01:43:15,030 --> 01:43:12,910 something like ten courses about 18 2108 01:43:18,450 --> 01:43:15,040 cubits which is about nine meters for 2109 01:43:19,980 --> 01:43:18,460 further upright so and people when 2110 01:43:21,510 --> 01:43:19,990 people look up at that platform they 2111 01:43:24,330 --> 01:43:21,520 think well this is just an artificial 2112 01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:24,340 platform created by stone robbers that 2113 01:43:27,960 --> 01:43:26,410 you know they crawled up there and they 2114 01:43:30,450 --> 01:43:27,970 took stone away dropped it down the 2115 01:43:32,160 --> 01:43:30,460 pyramid and so that platform that we see 2116 01:43:34,650 --> 01:43:32,170 today is just an artifact of stone 2117 01:43:36,270 --> 01:43:34,660 robbers but when I saw that number I 2118 01:43:39,030 --> 01:43:36,280 said well you know maybe maybe that's 2119 01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:39,040 wrong maybe that is actually that was 2120 01:43:42,930 --> 01:43:41,290 supposed to be a platform and then it 2121 01:43:44,940 --> 01:43:42,940 would be covered by the casing so you 2122 01:43:48,180 --> 01:43:44,950 actually do get a hollow space inside 2123 01:43:50,910 --> 01:43:48,190 okay right yeah yeah so so this is so 2124 01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:50,920 this was step two and so I'm going wait 2125 01:43:54,900 --> 01:43:53,050 you know maybe John Paul had this right 2126 01:43:57,300 --> 01:43:54,910 all along right there is a it was a 2127 01:44:00,540 --> 01:43:57,310 hollow space at the top and you could 2128 01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:00,550 have fit the sphere in it and so then 2129 01:44:06,180 --> 01:44:02,410 I'd started doing some more math right 2130 01:44:08,730 --> 01:44:06,190 and then and this Halep this idea of a 2131 01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:08,740 holographic projection started taking 2132 01:44:12,570 --> 01:44:09,730 shape 2133 01:44:14,580 --> 01:44:12,580 so first so we have space and time right 2134 01:44:17,340 --> 01:44:14,590 space is basically projecting up the 2135 01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:17,350 pyramid to get this holographic so to 2136 01:44:22,380 --> 01:44:20,650 speak you summit and then time so here's 2137 01:44:24,810 --> 01:44:22,390 when it gets interesting so what our 2138 01:44:27,480 --> 01:44:24,820 sense of time is Earth the Moon and Sun 2139 01:44:29,390 --> 01:44:27,490 right so one year 365 days right I'm 2140 01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:29,400 just rounding to the whole numbers sure 2141 01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:33,250 365 days and the moon one one circle one 2142 01:44:41,160 --> 01:44:35,890 orbit around is 27 days it's called the 2143 01:44:45,300 --> 01:44:41,170 Siberia orbit 27 days and 0.32 one six 2144 01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:45,310 days I know this by art so so what about 2145 01:44:49,230 --> 01:44:47,050 those numbers right there's just random 2146 01:44:52,170 --> 01:44:49,240 numbers well it turns out no there is a 2147 01:44:54,750 --> 01:44:52,180 very beautiful geometric relationship 2148 01:44:56,940 --> 01:44:54,760 which explains these numbers and what is 2149 01:45:00,690 --> 01:44:56,950 that relationship Jimmy you take a 2150 01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:00,700 circle you take a square and you draw a 2151 01:45:04,590 --> 01:45:02,890 perfect circle inside the bigger circle 2152 01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:04,600 that you can draw inside that square 2153 01:45:08,490 --> 01:45:06,610 okay that's called the inscribed circle 2154 01:45:11,550 --> 01:45:08,500 that's right and then you take the ratio 2155 01:45:13,590 --> 01:45:11,560 of the surface area between the circle 2156 01:45:15,270 --> 01:45:13,600 and what's left to get the still square 2157 01:45:16,890 --> 01:45:15,280 right so these little circle caps you 2158 01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:16,900 have four of them so if you take that 2159 01:45:21,149 --> 01:45:18,010 ratio guess what you 2160 01:45:25,229 --> 01:45:21,159 get those numbers 365 and uh and the the 2161 01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:25,239 the moon period right 27 and 365 so what 2162 01:45:30,029 --> 01:45:27,010 does that mean that means these numbers 2163 01:45:33,419 --> 01:45:30,039 are geometric and not only that they are 2164 01:45:36,689 --> 01:45:33,429 geometric in two dimensions okay so this 2165 01:45:40,589 --> 01:45:36,699 whole entire gravitational system Earth 2166 01:45:43,049 --> 01:45:40,599 Sun and Moon with the periods and in 3d 2167 01:45:46,140 --> 01:45:43,059 the whole thing is can be basically 2168 01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:46,150 compacted onto a small chip two 2169 01:45:50,669 --> 01:45:48,489 dimensionally in which has a geometric 2170 01:45:52,859 --> 01:45:50,679 design that couldn't be simpler and you 2171 01:45:55,529 --> 01:45:52,869 can express the whole thing with that 2172 01:45:57,540 --> 01:45:55,539 two-dimensional chip right now when I 2173 01:45:58,439 --> 01:45:57,550 saw that I'm beginning to say okay now 2174 01:46:01,439 --> 01:45:58,449 we got something here 2175 01:46:03,629 --> 01:46:01,449 okay so let's look at the holographic 2176 01:46:06,930 --> 01:46:03,639 principle as you know the fit but I 2177 01:46:08,549 --> 01:46:06,940 don't know the listeners know but so 2178 01:46:10,470 --> 01:46:08,559 just a quick background holographic 2179 01:46:12,270 --> 01:46:10,480 principle is basically one of the 2180 01:46:14,250 --> 01:46:12,280 hottest model right now in physics to 2181 01:46:15,660 --> 01:46:14,260 explain gravity okay the whole 2182 01:46:19,470 --> 01:46:15,670 experience that we're having in three 2183 01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:19,480 dimensions and time all of that is 2184 01:46:24,089 --> 01:46:22,090 basically encoded on a two-dimensional 2185 01:46:26,850 --> 01:46:24,099 surface and where is that at there at 2186 01:46:29,399 --> 01:46:26,860 the end of the universe on the rim right 2187 01:46:31,049 --> 01:46:29,409 just like on a black hole so what 2188 01:46:33,990 --> 01:46:31,059 they're saying is and this is Jerrod the 2189 01:46:35,430 --> 01:46:34,000 Hooft Nobel laureate he developed his 2190 01:46:37,890 --> 01:46:35,440 theory saying that our universe is 2191 01:46:39,810 --> 01:46:37,900 basically a black hole and we're in the 2192 01:46:43,410 --> 01:46:39,820 middle of it and everything 2193 01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:43,420 our entire 3d experience gravity and 2194 01:46:49,379 --> 01:46:47,050 everything is encoded at the rim of the 2195 01:46:52,770 --> 01:46:49,389 universe in two dimensions okay that's 2196 01:46:54,990 --> 01:46:52,780 the holographic principle and this was 2197 01:46:59,660 --> 01:46:55,000 based on work from the 70s there's a 2198 01:47:03,149 --> 01:46:59,670 Mexican born physicist jacob bekenstein 2199 01:47:06,390 --> 01:47:03,159 who found out that black holes grow into 2200 01:47:08,189 --> 01:47:06,400 in proportional to their surface not 2201 01:47:10,609 --> 01:47:08,199 their volume which is that's really the 2202 01:47:15,569 --> 01:47:10,619 see the key discovery that led to 2203 01:47:18,509 --> 01:47:15,579 Sharada Hooft proposing that that all 2204 01:47:20,729 --> 01:47:18,519 the holographic principle so here we're 2205 01:47:23,310 --> 01:47:20,739 looking at a pyramid right we have a we 2206 01:47:25,649 --> 01:47:23,320 have an indent at the base which is a 2207 01:47:27,959 --> 01:47:25,659 two-dimensional feature and when you 2208 01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:27,969 take it to its logical conclusion or end 2209 01:47:31,690 --> 01:47:30,489 which is what John Paul did you get a 2210 01:47:34,900 --> 01:47:31,700 summit that 2211 01:47:37,150 --> 01:47:34,910 koats ammeter okay and then you look at 2212 01:47:41,740 --> 01:47:37,160 this this what we our concept of time 2213 01:47:43,180 --> 01:47:41,750 and that is encoded geometrically dr. 2214 01:47:45,190 --> 01:47:43,190 what I'm saying a square and a circle 2215 01:47:48,070 --> 01:47:45,200 inside and you just take the internal 2216 01:47:49,450 --> 01:47:48,080 surface ratios right and so I'm seeing 2217 01:47:52,240 --> 01:47:49,460 all of this I'm going maybe this 2218 01:47:54,370 --> 01:47:52,250 platform is where it's supposed to be so 2219 01:47:57,700 --> 01:47:54,380 what does this mean that if this is not 2220 01:47:59,770 --> 01:47:57,710 an Old Kingdom design now we have to ask 2221 01:48:03,280 --> 01:47:59,780 well there's somebody that knows the 2222 01:48:04,750 --> 01:48:03,290 holographic principle and they use that 2223 01:48:06,100 --> 01:48:04,760 to build a Great Pyramid where does that 2224 01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:06,110 come from so then I'm beginning to 2225 01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:08,810 wonder are we are we looking at an 2226 01:48:14,260 --> 01:48:10,610 architect that comes from the real 2227 01:48:17,380 --> 01:48:14,270 universe and that they designed this or 2228 01:48:18,970 --> 01:48:17,390 are we looking at simulation and you 2229 01:48:20,920 --> 01:48:18,980 know what the simulation hypothesis 2230 01:48:23,530 --> 01:48:20,930 right you have basically Nick Bostrom 2231 01:48:25,450 --> 01:48:23,540 saying there's every possibilities you 2232 01:48:27,220 --> 01:48:25,460 know the in the by law in the real 2233 01:48:29,740 --> 01:48:27,230 universe eventually you get 2234 01:48:31,090 --> 01:48:29,750 civilizations low probability that 2235 01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:31,100 they're not going to get into that 2236 01:48:33,760 --> 01:48:32,570 they're not gonna have the tech low 2237 01:48:35,980 --> 01:48:33,770 probability they're not going to be 2238 01:48:38,050 --> 01:48:35,990 interested in doing ancestor simulations 2239 01:48:40,030 --> 01:48:38,060 and so therefore almost certainly 2240 01:48:42,670 --> 01:48:40,040 they're all going to start doing answers 2241 01:48:46,450 --> 01:48:42,680 to simulations right and so that that's 2242 01:48:48,850 --> 01:48:46,460 why the chance is almost one that that 2243 01:48:50,650 --> 01:48:48,860 we conscious beings are some artificial 2244 01:48:52,870 --> 01:48:50,660 intelligence and some simulation like I 2245 01:48:54,820 --> 01:48:52,880 suck I said Arthur was saying yesterday 2246 01:48:58,900 --> 01:48:54,830 we're in a video game we already have it 2247 01:49:02,590 --> 01:48:58,910 so to speak right and now what and all 2248 01:49:04,240 --> 01:49:02,600 of that it makes sense and it makes 2249 01:49:06,490 --> 01:49:04,250 sense for a lot of different reasons but 2250 01:49:08,440 --> 01:49:06,500 I want to go back to a couple of points 2251 01:49:12,130 --> 01:49:08,450 here which i think is interesting 2252 01:49:13,690 --> 01:49:12,140 because john paul also said when we look 2253 01:49:15,970 --> 01:49:13,700 at the eight-sided pyramid 2254 01:49:20,590 --> 01:49:15,980 one of the things that he brought up is 2255 01:49:25,030 --> 01:49:20,600 that that eight sides makes it 2256 01:49:28,210 --> 01:49:25,040 earthquake proof and that is how is it 2257 01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:28,220 possible if we just go with a normal 2258 01:49:37,210 --> 01:49:31,250 Homo Sapien sapien ancient Egypt that 2259 01:49:39,490 --> 01:49:37,220 they built this and and they constructed 2260 01:49:42,180 --> 01:49:39,500 these this beautiful pyramid but when 2261 01:49:46,860 --> 01:49:42,190 you go into an eight-sided issue 2262 01:49:49,740 --> 01:49:46,870 a four-sided pyramid built accurately 2263 01:49:51,990 --> 01:49:49,750 can crumble and can fall down there's 2264 01:49:55,080 --> 01:49:52,000 lots of evidence all over the Saqqara 2265 01:49:58,439 --> 01:49:55,090 showing that yes the Great Pyramid is 2266 01:50:01,830 --> 01:49:58,449 eight sided and is earthquake proof now 2267 01:50:04,500 --> 01:50:01,840 how does that concept come into play 2268 01:50:07,140 --> 01:50:04,510 unless some intelligence came from 2269 01:50:08,750 --> 01:50:07,150 somewhere intelligence so I don't first 2270 01:50:11,550 --> 01:50:08,760 of all I don't know if Jean Paul 2271 01:50:13,650 --> 01:50:11,560 believes that I mean I talked to him at 2272 01:50:15,330 --> 01:50:13,660 least once a week so I have to ask her 2273 01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:15,340 about that if he thought that this is an 2274 01:50:20,130 --> 01:50:16,690 it could it may yeah it makes sense 2275 01:50:22,560 --> 01:50:20,140 because if you heard him say it but 2276 01:50:24,840 --> 01:50:22,570 aside from that okay so now let's put 2277 01:50:27,500 --> 01:50:24,850 that part aside that may guess there's a 2278 01:50:30,840 --> 01:50:27,510 reason why that thing is still standing 2279 01:50:33,120 --> 01:50:30,850 he answered your question you could any 2280 01:50:36,090 --> 01:50:33,130 indent would do but the king the thing 2281 01:50:38,250 --> 01:50:36,100 is that indent has a specific length now 2282 01:50:41,070 --> 01:50:38,260 this is when it gets interesting so the 2283 01:50:44,790 --> 01:50:41,080 length of that indent is 0.92 meters 2284 01:50:49,229 --> 01:50:44,800 okay right and guess what that length is 2285 01:50:53,130 --> 01:50:49,239 the result of a beautiful equation it's 2286 01:50:56,400 --> 01:50:53,140 simple as can be the base of the pyramid 2287 01:50:59,430 --> 01:50:56,410 for those who don't know this is 440 2288 01:51:02,160 --> 01:50:59,440 cubits in the Egyptian metric if you 2289 01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:02,170 take half that 220 you multiply it by 8 2290 01:51:09,030 --> 01:51:05,650 which is the 8 gods of the octo that's a 2291 01:51:11,010 --> 01:51:09,040 special Pantheon in the Creator gods in 2292 01:51:13,110 --> 01:51:11,020 Egypt so two hundred twenty cubits times 2293 01:51:16,470 --> 01:51:13,120 eight times one over a thousand you get 2294 01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:16,480 that number 0.92 okay so what is one 2295 01:51:20,850 --> 01:51:18,610 over a thousand well if you look at the 2296 01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:20,860 creation story of Egypt is the Sun 2297 01:51:25,020 --> 01:51:23,050 coming out of the lotus flower okay 2298 01:51:28,530 --> 01:51:25,030 that's how that's basically their 2299 01:51:30,689 --> 01:51:28,540 concept of the Big Bang and the lotus 2300 01:51:31,950 --> 01:51:30,699 flower opens up releases the Sun and 2301 01:51:34,439 --> 01:51:31,960 that is the beginning of the universe 2302 01:51:37,140 --> 01:51:34,449 well this is when here glyphic comes 2303 01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:37,150 into play right how do you write 1 over 2304 01:51:42,689 --> 01:51:39,850 1000 in here glyphic well you put a 2305 01:51:44,790 --> 01:51:42,699 mouth symbol which is R ah yeah or and 2306 01:51:47,670 --> 01:51:44,800 then underneath you put the Lotus symbol 2307 01:51:50,970 --> 01:51:47,680 ha there you have it the Sun over the 2308 01:51:54,540 --> 01:51:50,980 Lotus okay so the formula is actually it 2309 01:51:55,890 --> 01:51:54,550 makes religious sense so it is and so 2310 01:51:58,140 --> 01:51:55,900 that's how they calculate 2311 01:52:01,320 --> 01:51:58,150 that particular indent so that England 2312 01:52:04,110 --> 01:52:01,330 had some meaning to them okay if it was 2313 01:52:06,180 --> 01:52:04,120 just some the other the other reason is 2314 01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:06,190 of course that all four sites that all 2315 01:52:11,610 --> 01:52:08,650 four indents are the same if this was 2316 01:52:15,630 --> 01:52:11,620 just some practical setting or an 2317 01:52:17,880 --> 01:52:15,640 accident right you wouldn't expect it to 2318 01:52:19,890 --> 01:52:17,890 be exactly the same on all four sides so 2319 01:52:22,020 --> 01:52:19,900 this argument was made by Martin Easler 2320 01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:22,030 in his book he thought that maybe it was 2321 01:52:27,689 --> 01:52:24,610 an accident of roping the courses or 2322 01:52:29,850 --> 01:52:27,699 things they corrected it and and yeah I 2323 01:52:32,130 --> 01:52:29,860 don't I don't think so right no I don't 2324 01:52:36,570 --> 01:52:32,140 think so either and okay now the second 2325 01:52:40,280 --> 01:52:36,580 part of this which fascinates me is the 2326 01:52:44,220 --> 01:52:40,290 casing stones by all historical records 2327 01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:44,230 were smooth and they covered up the 2328 01:52:52,310 --> 01:52:46,570 eight-sided pyramid and and made it back 2329 01:52:56,430 --> 01:52:52,320 into for the engineering involved to 2330 01:52:59,790 --> 01:52:56,440 carve and place the casing stones so 2331 01:53:03,660 --> 01:52:59,800 they are straight and hiding the 2332 01:53:07,350 --> 01:53:03,670 eight-sided interior of the pyramid is 2333 01:53:10,130 --> 01:53:07,360 an engineering feat as great as building 2334 01:53:13,010 --> 01:53:10,140 the pyramid itself that is extraordinary 2335 01:53:16,350 --> 01:53:13,020 beyond measure you can't you can't even 2336 01:53:17,490 --> 01:53:16,360 contemplate that yes I called yes it's 2337 01:53:19,530 --> 01:53:17,500 very difficult because you have to 2338 01:53:21,060 --> 01:53:19,540 basically fill in that Kate that 2339 01:53:22,860 --> 01:53:21,070 concavity right you have to make a 2340 01:53:25,200 --> 01:53:22,870 casing stone that's not straight in the 2341 01:53:27,390 --> 01:53:25,210 back could you imagine going to an 2342 01:53:29,010 --> 01:53:27,400 engineering firm today going okay so 2343 01:53:31,229 --> 01:53:29,020 we're gonna build this up we're gonna 2344 01:53:32,820 --> 01:53:31,239 middle with eight sides and we're gonna 2345 01:53:34,860 --> 01:53:32,830 make it four hundred and fifty feet tall 2346 01:53:37,110 --> 01:53:34,870 okay we're gonna do that I need two and 2347 01:53:39,689 --> 01:53:37,120 a half million stones so let's do that 2348 01:53:44,820 --> 01:53:39,699 but then when we're all done then we're 2349 01:53:47,790 --> 01:53:44,830 gonna cover up the eight sides maybe do 2350 01:53:50,010 --> 01:53:47,800 it to me right you're gonna have an 2351 01:53:52,560 --> 01:53:50,020 engineer you can have the president the 2352 01:53:54,540 --> 01:53:52,570 CEO of that engineering firm look at you 2353 01:53:57,689 --> 01:53:54,550 and go dude you're crazy number one 2354 01:54:00,810 --> 01:53:57,699 number two why why would you do this oh 2355 01:54:06,240 --> 01:54:00,820 by the way I need it to be one-one 2356 01:54:09,479 --> 01:54:06,250 hundredth of a degree to true north why 2357 01:54:13,319 --> 01:54:09,489 would you do these things well obviously 2358 01:54:17,779 --> 01:54:13,329 was important now let's uh let's let's 2359 01:54:21,419 --> 01:54:17,789 back this back up again to to do this 2360 01:54:25,379 --> 01:54:21,429 humans built it I'm fine with that where 2361 01:54:28,200 --> 01:54:25,389 did the information come from where did 2362 01:54:30,890 --> 01:54:28,210 these was it a download did it come from 2363 01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:30,900 off-planet did it come from 2364 01:54:37,319 --> 01:54:35,010 survivors of I don't know 2365 01:54:40,200 --> 01:54:37,329 you know from Anna from another 2366 01:54:43,259 --> 01:54:40,210 civilization I don't want to go into the 2367 01:54:45,270 --> 01:54:43,269 other big a and go into Atlantis but 2368 01:54:49,979 --> 01:54:45,280 there's certainly conversation to be had 2369 01:54:52,379 --> 01:54:49,989 here isn't there I absolutely I am well 2370 01:54:54,600 --> 01:54:52,389 first of all when I see when I see this 2371 01:54:57,989 --> 01:54:54,610 thing with the holographic idea right 2372 01:55:00,390 --> 01:54:57,999 mm-hmm even if this did not if this is 2373 01:55:01,649 --> 01:55:00,400 an accident a desire it just happened to 2374 01:55:03,600 --> 01:55:01,659 be designed this way 2375 01:55:04,890 --> 01:55:03,610 we can learn from it we might be able to 2376 01:55:09,029 --> 01:55:04,900 learn something about the way our 2377 01:55:12,540 --> 01:55:09,039 universe is designed okay but if this is 2378 01:55:16,229 --> 01:55:12,550 intentional and I'm just baffled by this 2379 01:55:19,410 --> 01:55:16,239 if this is intentional then it forces us 2380 01:55:21,569 --> 01:55:19,420 to include all those things you just 2381 01:55:23,399 --> 01:55:21,579 mentioned so we have to we have to start 2382 01:55:26,250 --> 01:55:23,409 thinking about taking serious simulation 2383 01:55:27,810 --> 01:55:26,260 hypothesis we have to we have to start 2384 01:55:29,729 --> 01:55:27,820 wondering if it's another civilization 2385 01:55:32,700 --> 01:55:29,739 from another place in the universe that 2386 01:55:35,220 --> 01:55:32,710 beam that information to us and we have 2387 01:55:38,160 --> 01:55:35,230 to take into consideration that it's a 2388 01:55:41,609 --> 01:55:38,170 civilization that is highly advanced 2389 01:55:43,290 --> 01:55:41,619 like us okay but no longer with us we 2390 01:55:45,450 --> 01:55:43,300 don't have any evidence of them other 2391 01:55:48,930 --> 01:55:45,460 than the legacy of knowledge that they 2392 01:55:50,700 --> 01:55:48,940 left in these in this sort of cryptic 2393 01:55:52,410 --> 01:55:50,710 way those are the three big categories 2394 01:55:55,470 --> 01:55:52,420 that I see and I think they're all on 2395 01:55:57,689 --> 01:55:55,480 the table now before we're gonna take a 2396 01:56:00,839 --> 01:55:57,699 break here in a second but before we put 2397 01:56:04,609 --> 01:56:00,849 the obvious issues on the table like 2398 01:56:07,950 --> 01:56:04,619 Howard vice and and fraud and graffiti 2399 01:56:10,919 --> 01:56:07,960 above the King's Chamber there's that 2400 01:56:13,739 --> 01:56:10,929 issue there is the issue of know 2401 01:56:17,370 --> 01:56:13,749 hieroglyphics on the greatest monument 2402 01:56:19,250 --> 01:56:17,380 in the world that somebody left it 2403 01:56:22,490 --> 01:56:19,260 unmarked that doesn't make any sense 2404 01:56:25,760 --> 01:56:22,500 which takes us to 2405 01:56:29,479 --> 01:56:25,770 the next situation that all of this 2406 01:56:31,640 --> 01:56:29,489 presents which is the Egyptians the 2407 01:56:35,330 --> 01:56:31,650 Pharaohs we can go all the way back to 2408 01:56:38,840 --> 01:56:35,340 men a and and the first dynasty if we go 2409 01:56:41,660 --> 01:56:38,850 there does that mean that they inherited 2410 01:56:46,879 --> 01:56:41,670 the pyramids right that they that they 2411 01:56:54,770 --> 01:56:46,889 were always there I think they inherited 2412 01:57:00,649 --> 01:56:54,780 some information I let me back up yeah 2413 01:57:03,649 --> 01:57:00,659 if we go to the original if we go to the 2414 01:57:08,270 --> 01:57:03,659 tomb of of many right and we go to that 2415 01:57:10,340 --> 01:57:08,280 that entire burial complex that Cemetery 2416 01:57:14,780 --> 01:57:10,350 Saqqara man it's a car 2417 01:57:18,709 --> 01:57:14,790 and and we go there when many was buried 2418 01:57:23,000 --> 01:57:18,719 yeah were the pyramids in the background 2419 01:57:25,340 --> 01:57:23,010 I shouldn't have said sack are so if you 2420 01:57:27,020 --> 01:57:25,350 mean by many hor-aha which is usually 2421 01:57:32,060 --> 01:57:27,030 associated with many that would be 2422 01:57:34,240 --> 01:57:32,070 Abydos at but what I'm saying is were 2423 01:57:38,450 --> 01:57:34,250 the pyramids standing in the background 2424 01:57:41,750 --> 01:57:38,460 when men A's tomb was put into the sand 2425 01:57:43,910 --> 01:57:41,760 I think that my hunch is Jimmy and I 2426 01:57:46,399 --> 01:57:43,920 could be completely wrong and there was 2427 01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:46,409 something in those three spots something 2428 01:57:50,899 --> 01:57:48,810 whether or not that was a pyramid I have 2429 01:57:53,360 --> 01:57:50,909 I don't I don't know yet 2430 01:57:56,120 --> 01:57:53,370 but there was something there and they 2431 01:57:58,430 --> 01:57:56,130 inherited some information which was 2432 01:58:01,070 --> 01:57:58,440 that's what used but I am hearing you 2433 01:58:02,930 --> 01:58:01,080 say they they got some information and 2434 01:58:05,240 --> 01:58:02,940 that information was very special to 2435 01:58:07,729 --> 01:58:05,250 them and they put that information to 2436 01:58:10,729 --> 01:58:07,739 use they basically ended up finishing 2437 01:58:12,530 --> 01:58:10,739 something that was there before but if 2438 01:58:15,070 --> 01:58:12,540 that was a PA and it could have been a 2439 01:58:17,060 --> 01:58:15,080 pyramid yes there is there is some 2440 01:58:18,200 --> 01:58:17,070 circumstantial evidence here and there 2441 01:58:20,720 --> 01:58:18,210 that could have been a pyramid like 2442 01:58:23,240 --> 01:58:20,730 structure for example there's a polish I 2443 01:58:23,959 --> 01:58:23,250 believe researcher that took samples I 2444 01:58:25,520 --> 01:58:23,969 don't know if you heard this is 2445 01:58:27,470 --> 01:58:25,530 fascinating you went to the Great 2446 01:58:30,080 --> 01:58:27,480 Pyramid took some stone samples because 2447 01:58:31,790 --> 01:58:30,090 he found he strange triangles on the 2448 01:58:34,820 --> 01:58:31,800 four walls have you ever seen this yes 2449 01:58:36,710 --> 01:58:34,830 yeah they're not that tall these are 2450 01:58:38,420 --> 01:58:36,720 very flat 2451 01:58:39,890 --> 01:58:38,430 triangles on all four sides you can see 2452 01:58:42,500 --> 01:58:39,900 really well on the west side and the 2453 01:58:45,140 --> 01:58:42,510 south side and he found out that it's a 2454 01:58:47,030 --> 01:58:45,150 different stone so what is that was that 2455 01:58:48,770 --> 01:58:47,040 a structure that was there before right 2456 01:58:50,540 --> 01:58:48,780 then if you walk into the red pyramid 2457 01:58:52,430 --> 01:58:50,550 and Robert Schoch will tell you this 2458 01:58:56,120 --> 01:58:52,440 when we are you walk in there that the 2459 01:58:57,980 --> 01:58:56,130 the the burial chamber looks like it was 2460 01:59:00,800 --> 01:58:57,990 exposed to the elements and then they 2461 01:59:02,570 --> 01:59:00,810 built the red pyramid on top of that 2462 01:59:07,190 --> 01:59:02,580 well that chamber is higher up right 2463 01:59:10,400 --> 01:59:07,200 it's I don't I can't remem I guess maybe 2464 01:59:12,410 --> 01:59:10,410 50 60 cubits um so that means that was 2465 01:59:14,270 --> 01:59:12,420 there before right so what you're asking 2466 01:59:16,580 --> 01:59:14,280 yes I I think it's definitely possible 2467 01:59:18,290 --> 01:59:16,590 yeah I mean the same thing oh it comes 2468 01:59:20,840 --> 01:59:18,300 into play with the step pyramid and oh 2469 01:59:23,540 --> 01:59:20,850 sure - as well where that those could 2470 01:59:24,860 --> 01:59:23,550 have been existing temples this is the 2471 01:59:28,400 --> 01:59:24,870 thing you know with the with the 2472 01:59:31,340 --> 01:59:28,410 pyramids built over the top this is my 2473 01:59:35,120 --> 01:59:31,350 speculation I've got 20 seconds and I'm 2474 01:59:40,250 --> 01:59:35,130 okay with saying this I think it is 2475 01:59:44,750 --> 01:59:40,260 possible that the that Khufu and Khafre 2476 01:59:48,470 --> 01:59:44,760 were sitting there and they try to 2477 01:59:51,110 --> 01:59:48,480 imitate those pyramids with everything 2478 01:59:56,450 --> 01:59:51,120 else that is in saqqara that's that's 2479 01:59:58,790 --> 01:59:56,460 that's that's I find it easier to go 2480 02:00:00,890 --> 01:59:58,800 there than the opposite direction right 2481 02:00:03,110 --> 02:00:00,900 and there's there's reasons for that 2482 02:00:05,240 --> 02:00:03,120 let's take our break right here this is 2483 02:00:07,430 --> 02:00:05,250 fade to black I am your host Jimmy 2484 02:00:09,230 --> 02:00:07,440 Church our guest tonight dr. Manu saves 2485 02:00:12,200 --> 02:00:09,240 a day is here we are talking about 2486 02:00:15,170 --> 02:00:12,210 ancient Egypt technology and how the 2487 02:00:16,910 --> 02:00:15,180 Giza Plateau was constructed all of it 2488 02:00:19,700 --> 02:00:16,920 we will be right back up to this short 2489 02:00:25,030 --> 02:00:19,710 break stay with us 2490 02:00:32,580 --> 02:00:27,709 my buddies Rob Halford the mental guard 2491 02:00:39,220 --> 02:00:35,860 this is kera digital broadcasting 2492 02:00:40,180 --> 02:00:39,230 station Salt Lake City Utah Van Buren 2493 02:00:42,280 --> 02:00:40,190 Arkansas 2494 02:00:44,470 --> 02:00:42,290 Kwasi we're not very good with our 2495 02:00:46,240 --> 02:00:44,480 health regiment until it's too late 2496 02:00:48,160 --> 02:00:46,250 we don't put oil in the car until the 2497 02:00:50,920 --> 02:00:48,170 engine blows up when the body's out of 2498 02:00:52,120 --> 02:00:50,930 balance your health is not so good give 2499 02:00:54,960 --> 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can still listen to every 2558 02:03:13,229 --> 02:03:10,480 minute of fade to black by just calling 2559 02:03:16,290 --> 02:03:13,239 six oh five five six two four four eight 2560 02:03:18,779 --> 02:03:16,300 two no smartphone app or internet needed 2561 02:03:21,390 --> 02:03:18,789 it saves your data plan and no extra 2562 02:03:24,180 --> 02:03:21,400 cost if you have unlimited minutes just 2563 02:03:26,370 --> 02:03:24,190 call six oh five five six two four four 2564 02:03:29,100 --> 02:03:26,380 eight two you can listen to me Jimmy 2565 02:03:48,899 --> 02:03:29,110 Church on any phone anytime anywhere 2566 02:03:52,200 --> 02:03:48,909 Gobekli Tepe I couldn't stay sane 2567 02:03:59,070 --> 02:03:52,210 without Pony mr. Brooks live fade to 2568 02:04:03,100 --> 02:04:00,940 this is fade to black 2569 02:04:06,760 --> 02:04:03,110 with Jimmy Church on the game changer 2570 02:04:09,170 --> 02:04:06,770 radio network and K GRA the global radio 2571 02:04:19,189 --> 02:04:09,180 alliance 2572 02:04:24,340 --> 02:04:22,180 welcome back 2573 02:04:28,030 --> 02:04:24,350 fade to black I'm here Jimmy Church our 2574 02:04:32,500 --> 02:04:28,040 guest tonight doctor - a Zadeh we are 2575 02:04:34,390 --> 02:04:32,510 discussing ancient Egyptian tech how the 2576 02:04:37,770 --> 02:04:34,400 great pyramids were built what are they 2577 02:04:41,020 --> 02:04:37,780 why all of these questions have been 2578 02:04:43,420 --> 02:04:41,030 fundamental for so long and now I'm 2579 02:04:47,230 --> 02:04:43,430 going to present something else I've got 2580 02:04:52,000 --> 02:04:47,240 a great issue with ok I'm gonna make 2581 02:04:56,230 --> 02:04:52,010 this simple and quick the 70-ton blocks 2582 02:04:59,370 --> 02:04:56,240 in the relieving chambers above the 2583 02:05:02,770 --> 02:04:59,380 King's Chamber in the Great Pyramid 2584 02:05:04,780 --> 02:05:02,780 those floors and the roofs of each of 2585 02:05:06,730 --> 02:05:04,790 those chambers hits a floor roof floor 2586 02:05:10,740 --> 02:05:06,740 roof floor roof you know going up to the 2587 02:05:16,030 --> 02:05:10,750 top and the top one is angled those 2588 02:05:21,010 --> 02:05:16,040 those were quarried 500 miles south of 2589 02:05:25,990 --> 02:05:21,020 giza now before we even mess with that 2590 02:05:29,530 --> 02:05:26,000 for a second all of the boats that we 2591 02:05:34,450 --> 02:05:29,540 know of all of the boats did not 2592 02:05:36,250 --> 02:05:34,460 transport those stones up the Nile or 2593 02:05:40,900 --> 02:05:36,260 down the Nile it was downstream 2594 02:05:44,370 --> 02:05:40,910 up the nile down the Nile to Giza one of 2595 02:05:48,000 --> 02:05:44,380 those 70 ton blocks would have sunk 2596 02:05:51,700 --> 02:05:48,010 anything unless they had some ginormous 2597 02:05:54,970 --> 02:05:51,710 barges that we have no evidence of okay 2598 02:05:57,550 --> 02:05:54,980 so that part I'm taking out the other 2599 02:06:01,750 --> 02:05:57,560 issue that I have is if they drugged 2600 02:06:04,840 --> 02:06:01,760 those through the desert across the sand 2601 02:06:07,200 --> 02:06:04,850 and moving them remember they want us to 2602 02:06:10,750 --> 02:06:07,210 believe that the pyramids were built 2603 02:06:13,600 --> 02:06:10,760 Khufu Khafre in 20 years dragging those 2604 02:06:23,800 --> 02:06:13,610 through the desert would have taken at a 2605 02:06:27,670 --> 02:06:23,810 foot per minute four hundred years so oh 2606 02:06:29,980 --> 02:06:27,680 they they moisten to the sand and they 2607 02:06:35,310 --> 02:06:29,990 they drug that okay well that would have 2608 02:06:38,280 --> 02:06:35,320 taken four hundred years it's 500 miles 2609 02:06:41,250 --> 02:06:38,290 how did they get that we know the stones 2610 02:06:45,960 --> 02:06:41,260 are in the pyramid we know the granite 2611 02:06:48,510 --> 02:06:45,970 is there we know where it came from but 2612 02:06:52,650 --> 02:06:48,520 but how did they get it from point A to 2613 02:06:57,930 --> 02:06:52,660 point B how did they get those 70 70 2614 02:07:00,540 --> 02:06:57,940 tons seven D right well okay I'm going 2615 02:07:04,560 --> 02:07:00,550 to enter something into the into the 2616 02:07:07,500 --> 02:07:04,570 evidence space it's an inscription that 2617 02:07:11,340 --> 02:07:07,510 was carved into the causeway of Oona's 2618 02:07:14,460 --> 02:07:11,350 pyramid and in that inscription it's it 2619 02:07:18,080 --> 02:07:14,470 states that granite columns from elif 2620 02:07:21,330 --> 02:07:18,090 elephantine were delivered to the 2621 02:07:23,790 --> 02:07:21,340 pyramid complex of Oona's now I can't 2622 02:07:28,100 --> 02:07:23,800 remember if that was by if it says by 2623 02:07:32,490 --> 02:07:28,110 ship or not it just says granite columns 2624 02:07:35,480 --> 02:07:32,500 column is I think men minute something 2625 02:07:38,910 --> 02:07:35,490 like that minute and granite is not 2626 02:07:42,090 --> 02:07:38,920 matte so it's very specific it mentions 2627 02:07:44,550 --> 02:07:42,100 what it is where it came from so but how 2628 02:07:47,550 --> 02:07:44,560 to your question it I'm not sure the 2629 02:07:50,490 --> 02:07:47,560 inscription says that there is another I 2630 02:07:53,760 --> 02:07:50,500 believe there is a relief of such a boat 2631 02:07:56,280 --> 02:07:53,770 that you're mentioning that could be big 2632 02:07:57,870 --> 02:07:56,290 that I think actually shows a granite on 2633 02:08:01,230 --> 02:07:57,880 it but I have to check that I can email 2634 02:08:02,970 --> 02:08:01,240 it to you if you ask me directly what is 2635 02:08:06,270 --> 02:08:02,980 the most likely I think use you pretty 2636 02:08:07,860 --> 02:08:06,280 much excluded the the land route so I 2637 02:08:09,870 --> 02:08:07,870 agree with you I think it had to be on 2638 02:08:12,750 --> 02:08:09,880 water and they would have had to use a 2639 02:08:15,840 --> 02:08:12,760 big ship if that's if they did it okay 2640 02:08:19,320 --> 02:08:15,850 obviously they did so somebody did okay 2641 02:08:21,390 --> 02:08:19,330 now did they use some esoteric tech is 2642 02:08:24,810 --> 02:08:21,400 that another possibility I have no idea 2643 02:08:25,310 --> 02:08:24,820 I have no evidence for it one way or 2644 02:08:27,820 --> 02:08:25,320 another 2645 02:08:30,340 --> 02:08:27,830 getting the 2646 02:08:31,360 --> 02:08:30,350 the limestone across the Nile to the 2647 02:08:35,230 --> 02:08:31,370 Giza Plateau 2648 02:08:36,040 --> 02:08:35,240 right right two-ton blocks alright 2649 02:08:38,560 --> 02:08:36,050 alright 2650 02:08:40,810 --> 02:08:38,570 you know we had you know I I don't have 2651 02:08:44,520 --> 02:08:40,820 issues with that yeah you can almost 2652 02:08:49,170 --> 02:08:44,530 swim with it okay alright okay 2653 02:08:53,430 --> 02:08:49,180 but 70-ton red granite blocks 2654 02:08:58,950 --> 02:08:53,440 transported 500 miles is is not easy 2655 02:09:02,650 --> 02:08:58,960 doing it today with trucks and cranes is 2656 02:09:05,710 --> 02:09:02,660 nearly an impossible feat yes right and 2657 02:09:08,770 --> 02:09:05,720 we are talking you know now 5000 years 2658 02:09:11,110 --> 02:09:08,780 ago and I I just have issues with that 2659 02:09:12,850 --> 02:09:11,120 yeah no I totally understand what you're 2660 02:09:15,940 --> 02:09:12,860 coming from well I went to the quarry 2661 02:09:18,840 --> 02:09:15,950 with Muhammad Ibrahim and Robert Schoch 2662 02:09:23,050 --> 02:09:18,850 and Katie we we all went with a group of 2663 02:09:25,420 --> 02:09:23,060 visitors and and when you see it's just 2664 02:09:26,670 --> 02:09:25,430 gigantic thing sitting there the one 2665 02:09:31,120 --> 02:09:26,680 that's broken 2666 02:09:33,130 --> 02:09:31,130 it's the obelisk yeah it's difficult I 2667 02:09:35,490 --> 02:09:33,140 mean that that obelisk I would say is 2668 02:09:39,100 --> 02:09:35,500 actually maybe even bigger than those 2669 02:09:41,050 --> 02:09:39,110 rafters but it is yes it's difficult to 2670 02:09:45,100 --> 02:09:41,060 imagine how they could lift this out of 2671 02:09:49,150 --> 02:09:45,110 there and put it on a boat it's yeah so 2672 02:09:52,600 --> 02:09:49,160 when you let your imagination run how do 2673 02:09:55,510 --> 02:09:52,610 you think they got it there well I I 2674 02:09:57,400 --> 02:09:55,520 would defer to Chris Dunn I think I so 2675 02:09:59,320 --> 02:09:57,410 I'm gonna give you two answers so on the 2676 02:10:00,970 --> 02:09:59,330 one hand you have Chris Dunn he I think 2677 02:10:04,960 --> 02:10:00,980 he's done a great job to come up with an 2678 02:10:07,900 --> 02:10:04,970 out-of-the-box explanation and Mohammed 2679 02:10:09,400 --> 02:10:07,910 is great at explaining Chris's idea so 2680 02:10:13,870 --> 02:10:09,410 we for example we looked at some of 2681 02:10:16,090 --> 02:10:13,880 these they look so if that grooves and 2682 02:10:18,040 --> 02:10:16,100 so Mohammed thought this must have been 2683 02:10:20,770 --> 02:10:18,050 a power tool which is what Chris was 2684 02:10:24,160 --> 02:10:20,780 proposing that was sort of hammering the 2685 02:10:27,370 --> 02:10:24,170 stone away with sort of claw like a claw 2686 02:10:30,040 --> 02:10:27,380 like bid okay so this is so this is the 2687 02:10:31,930 --> 02:10:30,050 esoteric explanation now if you ask each 2688 02:10:34,390 --> 02:10:31,940 ecologist what are they saying 2689 02:10:37,540 --> 02:10:34,400 they would probably say that a coal fire 2690 02:10:40,330 --> 02:10:37,550 was heated so the granite was pre pre 2691 02:10:40,930 --> 02:10:40,340 damaged with coal fire so it becomes 2692 02:10:43,660 --> 02:10:40,940 brittle 2693 02:10:45,910 --> 02:10:43,670 and then you take a diorite ball and you 2694 02:10:48,370 --> 02:10:45,920 basically you pound away and then the 2695 02:10:51,250 --> 02:10:48,380 granite chips off okay and this has been 2696 02:10:55,240 --> 02:10:51,260 actually demonstrated but does that 2697 02:10:57,790 --> 02:10:55,250 explain the whole thing and I love to 2698 02:11:00,310 --> 02:10:57,800 see this in action before I you know 2699 02:11:02,709 --> 02:11:00,320 because before I agree with it 2700 02:11:04,300 --> 02:11:02,719 so those are the two sides I'm not 2701 02:11:08,110 --> 02:11:04,310 taking any sides Jimmy I just don't know 2702 02:11:10,180 --> 02:11:08,120 the answer I I don't I I'm certainly not 2703 02:11:11,620 --> 02:11:10,190 an engineer I'm not a I'm not a 2704 02:11:14,709 --> 02:11:11,630 technician that being able to figure 2705 02:11:16,570 --> 02:11:14,719 that out my my forte is more the design 2706 02:11:19,330 --> 02:11:16,580 and the architecture astronomy those 2707 02:11:21,790 --> 02:11:19,340 things but I defer to Chris people are 2708 02:11:24,760 --> 02:11:21,800 Kristin there are some great people at 2709 02:11:26,470 --> 02:11:24,770 University of heroin in Cairo that are 2710 02:11:29,260 --> 02:11:26,480 experts on this sort of thing material 2711 02:11:30,640 --> 02:11:29,270 science I think the heat is there is 2712 02:11:33,820 --> 02:11:30,650 maybe something maybe it's a combination 2713 02:11:38,439 --> 02:11:33,830 maybe it's heat and some power tool but 2714 02:11:41,020 --> 02:11:38,449 I just don't know yeah I can I can look 2715 02:11:44,530 --> 02:11:41,030 at different ways of coring and rough 2716 02:11:46,060 --> 02:11:44,540 shaping these these granite blocks and 2717 02:11:50,640 --> 02:11:46,070 the granite blocks inside of the King's 2718 02:11:53,439 --> 02:11:50,650 Chamber what those walls are made of 2719 02:11:56,500 --> 02:11:53,449 aside from the limestone which is the 2720 02:11:59,770 --> 02:11:56,510 rest of the pyramid that all of that was 2721 02:12:01,930 --> 02:11:59,780 build with an engineering precision the 2722 02:12:05,410 --> 02:12:01,940 walls and the interior of the King's 2723 02:12:08,500 --> 02:12:05,420 Chamber that it doesn't make any sense 2724 02:12:11,110 --> 02:12:08,510 and how you would build that so high up 2725 02:12:13,300 --> 02:12:11,120 inside of the pyramid and how those 2726 02:12:15,160 --> 02:12:13,310 blocks got there and then you have the 2727 02:12:17,920 --> 02:12:15,170 engineering side of why you would build 2728 02:12:20,200 --> 02:12:17,930 the relieving chambers above to support 2729 02:12:22,780 --> 02:12:20,210 and so the King's Chamber didn't 2730 02:12:25,570 --> 02:12:22,790 collapse upon itself there's all of all 2731 02:12:28,930 --> 02:12:25,580 of those issues but we get to the other 2732 02:12:31,900 --> 02:12:28,940 side of of this which is the purpose of 2733 02:12:35,979 --> 02:12:31,910 the Great Pyramid why would you do it 2734 02:12:40,000 --> 02:12:35,989 and your theory along with jean-paul 2735 02:12:43,840 --> 02:12:40,010 about this fear being inside of a 2736 02:12:46,479 --> 02:12:43,850 possible pyramidion on on the top of the 2737 02:12:49,510 --> 02:12:46,489 Great Pyramid and the holographic side 2738 02:12:51,130 --> 02:12:49,520 and where the computations come in with 2739 02:12:53,650 --> 02:12:51,140 the numbers that start to point things 2740 02:12:54,580 --> 02:12:53,660 in a whole other direction yeah this is 2741 02:12:57,010 --> 02:12:54,590 Jai mean of course that 2742 02:12:58,600 --> 02:12:57,020 just one little you know theory that of 2743 02:13:00,879 --> 02:12:58,610 course there's people there's so many 2744 02:13:02,890 --> 02:13:00,889 ideas out there so I'm just gonna scan 2745 02:13:04,870 --> 02:13:02,900 across a few you know for example Alan 2746 02:13:06,850 --> 02:13:04,880 green you know him well I didn't come up 2747 02:13:08,439 --> 02:13:06,860 with all these mathematical constants 2748 02:13:10,629 --> 02:13:08,449 that you get by dividing various 2749 02:13:13,540 --> 02:13:10,639 dimensions in the pyramid Mallon is 2750 02:13:15,220 --> 02:13:13,550 famous for relating the meter the cubit 2751 02:13:20,620 --> 02:13:15,230 and the foot right so one meter plus 1 2752 02:13:22,479 --> 02:13:20,630 cubed plus one foot equals six feet it's 2753 02:13:25,810 --> 02:13:22,489 an inch very interesting relationship so 2754 02:13:28,780 --> 02:13:25,820 Allen found that there are people like a 2755 02:13:31,089 --> 02:13:28,790 Gregory Osborn for example he's he's 2756 02:13:35,260 --> 02:13:31,099 interpreted the Penniston coat and he's 2757 02:13:38,350 --> 02:13:35,270 come up with this amazing sort of it's 2758 02:13:40,689 --> 02:13:38,360 like a clock basically that you can that 2759 02:13:42,370 --> 02:13:40,699 is related to precession and there's Phi 2760 02:13:43,930 --> 02:13:42,380 involved that involves the entire 2761 02:13:46,229 --> 02:13:43,940 Plateau 2762 02:13:50,560 --> 02:13:46,239 then you know of course Graham Hancock 2763 02:13:52,149 --> 02:13:50,570 and Robert Bauval they they suggested 2764 02:13:55,660 --> 02:13:52,159 that it's a processional clock the whole 2765 02:13:56,950 --> 02:13:55,670 Giza Plateau and and Robert Bauval of 2766 02:13:58,600 --> 02:13:56,960 course he's famous for the Orion 2767 02:14:01,359 --> 02:13:58,610 correlation so that it would have to do 2768 02:14:04,959 --> 02:14:01,369 with Egyptian religion of the afterlife 2769 02:14:06,580 --> 02:14:04,969 that the King goes to Orion and then he 2770 02:14:08,589 --> 02:14:06,590 goes to the northern star zone and so 2771 02:14:11,260 --> 02:14:08,599 that the shaft so the shafts are 2772 02:14:12,939 --> 02:14:11,270 actually Jimmy that is the most puzzling 2773 02:14:15,339 --> 02:14:12,949 part of the whole pyramid why would you 2774 02:14:18,280 --> 02:14:15,349 build these shafts it's so difficult to 2775 02:14:20,229 --> 02:14:18,290 make them and and the other really 2776 02:14:24,070 --> 02:14:20,239 puzzling question is why would you if 2777 02:14:26,080 --> 02:14:24,080 you abandon the the shafts that come out 2778 02:14:28,629 --> 02:14:26,090 of the Queen chamber why would you keep 2779 02:14:35,080 --> 02:14:28,639 extending it past the king chamber right 2780 02:14:38,109 --> 02:14:35,090 this is difficult to explain yes yes yes 2781 02:14:42,550 --> 02:14:38,119 yes and I constantly go back to this 2782 02:14:45,160 --> 02:14:42,560 visual let's go up 50 layers let's go up 2783 02:14:47,740 --> 02:14:45,170 around the King's Chamber above let's 2784 02:14:57,010 --> 02:14:47,750 say we're now laying those stones down 2785 02:14:59,770 --> 02:14:57,020 right out there is the these shafts that 2786 02:15:02,229 --> 02:14:59,780 you have to build straight the stones 2787 02:15:06,419 --> 02:15:02,239 that are being brought up and quarried 2788 02:15:09,180 --> 02:15:06,429 you have to then shape the angle 2789 02:15:12,120 --> 02:15:09,190 the stones where the shaft is to 2790 02:15:15,120 --> 02:15:12,130 continue the shaft all the way to 2791 02:15:17,700 --> 02:15:15,130 completion to the exterior of the 2792 02:15:21,510 --> 02:15:17,710 pyramid and that is something that has 2793 02:15:25,110 --> 02:15:21,520 to be engineered as each layer of of 2794 02:15:29,160 --> 02:15:25,120 stonework is is built up to complete the 2795 02:15:34,380 --> 02:15:29,170 pyramid it boggles the mind and and not 2796 02:15:36,240 --> 02:15:34,390 only that the shafts which are small the 2797 02:15:38,280 --> 02:15:36,250 smaller it is the more difficult it is 2798 02:15:42,689 --> 02:15:38,290 but you have to do the exact same 2799 02:15:44,610 --> 02:15:42,699 principle for the Grand Gallery all of 2800 02:15:46,620 --> 02:15:44,620 that the we can look at the Grand 2801 02:15:49,290 --> 02:15:46,630 Gallery and go wow that's amazing 2802 02:15:52,290 --> 02:15:49,300 you know it's on the outside of the 2803 02:15:54,540 --> 02:15:52,300 grand Calver heath engineering coming up 2804 02:15:57,120 --> 02:15:54,550 to it and building the stones around it 2805 02:15:59,820 --> 02:15:57,130 to complete the pyramid and you have the 2806 02:16:03,030 --> 02:15:59,830 ascending shafts you know that that that 2807 02:16:06,209 --> 02:16:03,040 go underground you know that are 300 2808 02:16:12,990 --> 02:16:06,219 feet long 3 foot by 3 foot perfectly 2809 02:16:15,600 --> 02:16:13,000 straight carved through solid rock it 2810 02:16:17,910 --> 02:16:15,610 just doesn't make any sense yeah so that 2811 02:16:22,050 --> 02:16:17,920 there's a so that's a great point when 2812 02:16:23,300 --> 02:16:22,060 when you when you you go into the you go 2813 02:16:26,310 --> 02:16:23,310 through ama Nunes 2814 02:16:28,459 --> 02:16:26,320 exit by our entry rather right and then 2815 02:16:30,750 --> 02:16:28,469 and then you walk into you go up a 2816 02:16:32,640 --> 02:16:30,760 spiral staircase you are now in the 2817 02:16:35,310 --> 02:16:32,650 ascending passage so the first part of 2818 02:16:39,480 --> 02:16:35,320 the ascending passage is actually carved 2819 02:16:42,120 --> 02:16:39,490 into the already hewn block masonry 2820 02:16:43,589 --> 02:16:42,130 right so what why would they do that 2821 02:16:46,259 --> 02:16:43,599 right so they already they've already 2822 02:16:48,870 --> 02:16:46,269 built the the courses of the pyramid at 2823 02:16:51,780 --> 02:16:48,880 that point and then they decide to carve 2824 02:16:53,250 --> 02:16:51,790 a tunnel through it it goes some ie I 2825 02:16:54,929 --> 02:16:53,260 don't know if it's halfway or something 2826 02:16:56,580 --> 02:16:54,939 like that about halfway and then all of 2827 02:16:59,219 --> 02:16:56,590 a sudden they start building that 2828 02:17:01,770 --> 02:16:59,229 corridor from scratch again right so the 2829 02:17:03,990 --> 02:17:01,780 first portion is cut so why did they do 2830 02:17:06,629 --> 02:17:04,000 that right so they must have is this a 2831 02:17:08,129 --> 02:17:06,639 change of heart is that is that part of 2832 02:17:09,959 --> 02:17:08,139 the original design so to all these 2833 02:17:12,240 --> 02:17:09,969 things John Paul and I were trying to 2834 02:17:13,860 --> 02:17:12,250 explain all these things right now and 2835 02:17:17,459 --> 02:17:13,870 then we have to of course come up with a 2836 02:17:19,080 --> 02:17:17,469 major idea that is underlying all of 2837 02:17:20,610 --> 02:17:19,090 those things and we 2838 02:17:22,830 --> 02:17:20,620 when you hear about it which hopefully 2839 02:17:24,450 --> 02:17:22,840 will get this out by before the end of 2840 02:17:25,620 --> 02:17:24,460 the once I have the book finished then 2841 02:17:27,959 --> 02:17:25,630 I'm going to start working on that with 2842 02:17:29,610 --> 02:17:27,969 John Paul but it'll begin to start 2843 02:17:31,830 --> 02:17:29,620 making sense when you see the theme 2844 02:17:35,759 --> 02:17:31,840 it'll start some of these things will 2845 02:17:37,410 --> 02:17:35,769 fall into place and another another 2846 02:17:39,089 --> 02:17:37,420 interesting is the three plugging blocks 2847 02:17:42,570 --> 02:17:39,099 you know about those right there are in 2848 02:17:44,940 --> 02:17:42,580 the the bottom of the ascending passage 2849 02:17:46,530 --> 02:17:44,950 right there's three of them there's 2850 02:17:48,330 --> 02:17:46,540 three of them right granite blocks Oh 2851 02:17:50,070 --> 02:17:48,340 jean-pierre jean-pierre Houdin has 2852 02:17:51,719 --> 02:17:50,080 proposed that those were counterweights 2853 02:17:55,230 --> 02:17:51,729 as you know he thought the Grand Gallery 2854 02:17:57,030 --> 02:17:55,240 is sort of a what's called a 2855 02:17:58,679 --> 02:17:57,040 counterweight system to pull up the 2856 02:18:01,049 --> 02:17:58,689 granite rafters on the other side that 2857 02:18:03,450 --> 02:18:01,059 you've been wondering about yeah so he 2858 02:18:06,629 --> 02:18:03,460 suggested that to get one of those 50 2859 02:18:10,110 --> 02:18:06,639 ton rafters up the ramp to the let's say 2860 02:18:12,330 --> 02:18:10,120 30th course you run the great they're 2861 02:18:15,150 --> 02:18:12,340 great Grand Gallery as a counterweight 2862 02:18:17,160 --> 02:18:15,160 system multiple times so each I think he 2863 02:18:20,330 --> 02:18:17,170 said it takes 11 times but up and down 2864 02:18:23,849 --> 02:18:20,340 up and down to get the rafter from 2865 02:18:26,250 --> 02:18:23,859 across this I think it's 200 meter long 2866 02:18:29,310 --> 02:18:26,260 ramped up and then but it only takes you 2867 02:18:30,270 --> 02:18:29,320 up to let's say core study course 50 2868 02:18:31,980 --> 02:18:30,280 okay 2869 02:18:33,480 --> 02:18:31,990 well then how are you gonna get it up to 2870 02:18:35,759 --> 02:18:33,490 relieve Mac you were saying after 2871 02:18:38,910 --> 02:18:35,769 relieving chamber which is another I 2872 02:18:42,209 --> 02:18:38,920 believe it's 30 courses up okay that 2873 02:18:45,179 --> 02:18:42,219 that that's so I can sort of kind of see 2874 02:18:47,129 --> 02:18:45,189 how this could up get up to 50 where the 2875 02:18:49,740 --> 02:18:47,139 floor of the king chamber is but then 2876 02:18:53,459 --> 02:18:49,750 how do you hoist it up on that small 2877 02:18:55,980 --> 02:18:53,469 space onto the higher levels those are 2878 02:18:58,200 --> 02:18:55,990 the engineering questions that I don't 2879 02:18:59,669 --> 02:18:58,210 even think I don't think who down has an 2880 02:19:01,679 --> 02:18:59,679 answer for that either and you know he's 2881 02:19:03,240 --> 02:19:01,689 working with this engineering firm that 2882 02:19:05,879 --> 02:19:03,250 saw systems I mean they're very 2883 02:19:08,400 --> 02:19:05,889 sophisticated graphical analysis but I 2884 02:19:10,080 --> 02:19:08,410 don't think they I don't know what about 2885 02:19:13,410 --> 02:19:10,090 the big void was the big void another 2886 02:19:15,780 --> 02:19:13,420 great great gala and a grand gallery 2887 02:19:18,299 --> 02:19:15,790 that was again used to hoist up these 2888 02:19:23,490 --> 02:19:18,309 blocks as a counter system we don't know 2889 02:19:26,700 --> 02:19:23,500 we don't know and I cannot wait to find 2890 02:19:29,960 --> 02:19:26,710 out to find out and I'll say this the 2891 02:19:32,940 --> 02:19:29,970 Dassault Systemes 2892 02:19:34,860 --> 02:19:32,950 documentary yeah and and their graphics 2893 02:19:37,670 --> 02:19:34,870 I have watched that and I'm not I'm not 2894 02:19:41,940 --> 02:19:37,680 kidding here I've watched it 50 times 2895 02:19:44,490 --> 02:19:41,950 yes I have I have and it's it answers a 2896 02:19:49,081 --> 02:19:44,500 lot of questions it really does and if 2897 02:19:51,450 --> 02:19:49,091 the way that the dassault engineers have 2898 02:19:54,091 --> 02:19:51,460 contemplated which is once you've 2899 02:19:56,970 --> 02:19:54,101 finished off the King's Chamber and you 2900 02:19:59,690 --> 02:19:56,980 dropped the the granite blocks the traps 2901 02:20:02,791 --> 02:19:59,700 behind you what happened to the dudes 2902 02:20:05,671 --> 02:20:02,801 right well that means they got out they 2903 02:20:08,490 --> 02:20:05,681 got out somewhere and I keep looking at 2904 02:20:10,440 --> 02:20:08,500 that one miss coloured stone behind the 2905 02:20:14,461 --> 02:20:10,450 sarcophagus right in the King's Chamber 2906 02:20:17,280 --> 02:20:14,471 and I scratch my head I go ha it's too 2907 02:20:20,070 --> 02:20:17,290 obvious it stands out right right it 2908 02:20:21,480 --> 02:20:20,080 absolutely does I think that's but 2909 02:20:23,371 --> 02:20:21,490 that's a good point it could have been 2910 02:20:26,371 --> 02:20:23,381 there yes and it could have been the 2911 02:20:28,770 --> 02:20:26,381 well shaft right it could have and and 2912 02:20:32,310 --> 02:20:28,780 what why hasn't anybody attempted to 2913 02:20:34,051 --> 02:20:32,320 move that I don't get it you would have 2914 02:20:38,490 --> 02:20:34,061 thought look they were blasting that 2915 02:20:40,350 --> 02:20:38,500 thing would dynamite all right when 2916 02:20:43,621 --> 02:20:40,360 Colonel vise got there they were just 2917 02:20:46,950 --> 02:20:43,631 you know blasting holes into anything 2918 02:20:48,810 --> 02:20:46,960 that they could to to get around the 2919 02:20:51,780 --> 02:20:48,820 inside of the Great Pyramid why they 2920 02:20:53,700 --> 02:20:51,790 didn't damage the King's Chamber and and 2921 02:20:56,850 --> 02:20:53,710 start to remove some of those stones I 2922 02:20:58,801 --> 02:20:56,860 don't know well let me let me let me 2923 02:21:02,310 --> 02:20:58,811 give you a bit of information that's 2924 02:21:04,410 --> 02:21:02,320 really intriguing regarding that the the 2925 02:21:06,301 --> 02:21:04,420 shaft that comes out of the king chamber 2926 02:21:08,551 --> 02:21:06,311 that goes north right you know it takes 2927 02:21:10,171 --> 02:21:08,561 an S right yes I go it's like a toilet 2928 02:21:13,140 --> 02:21:10,181 with Sean Paul and I called it the 2929 02:21:17,100 --> 02:21:13,150 toilet pipe it said it's an s-shaped 2930 02:21:19,381 --> 02:21:17,110 course right and who Dom I think he's 2931 02:21:21,301 --> 02:21:19,391 the one who pointed this out well why is 2932 02:21:23,100 --> 02:21:21,311 there an S what is it trying to avoid 2933 02:21:24,871 --> 02:21:23,110 and of course the theory is there's a 2934 02:21:27,390 --> 02:21:24,881 void just like you're saying there's a 2935 02:21:30,360 --> 02:21:27,400 void behind the north wall of the king 2936 02:21:33,211 --> 02:21:30,370 chamber which is why that shaft has to 2937 02:21:35,251 --> 02:21:33,221 turn to basically get around that to 2938 02:21:38,280 --> 02:21:35,261 move it right to move around it because 2939 02:21:41,490 --> 02:21:38,290 it's existing behind that wall yes yeah 2940 02:21:43,019 --> 02:21:41,500 that's right yes so I think who done I 2941 02:21:45,479 --> 02:21:43,029 think some of the 2942 02:21:48,119 --> 02:21:45,489 parts of who dons the model may in fact 2943 02:21:51,119 --> 02:21:48,129 still work okay he had he came up with 2944 02:21:52,529 --> 02:21:51,129 some great ideas maybe not all of them I 2945 02:21:55,579 --> 02:21:52,539 don't know about the internal ramp so 2946 02:21:59,309 --> 02:21:55,589 much anymore I think the odds are are 2947 02:22:01,199 --> 02:21:59,319 falling on that one the counterweight 2948 02:22:03,510 --> 02:22:01,209 system for the Grand Gallery I think 2949 02:22:05,880 --> 02:22:03,520 that still have some merit but I but I 2950 02:22:08,489 --> 02:22:05,890 agree it's that's maybe not the whole 2951 02:22:10,170 --> 02:22:08,499 story and I'm not an engineer so I can't 2952 02:22:12,090 --> 02:22:10,180 judge I I'm not I don't have the 2953 02:22:14,639 --> 02:22:12,100 education to judge if that's feasible 2954 02:22:17,849 --> 02:22:14,649 and thus all system thinks it's feasible 2955 02:22:19,199 --> 02:22:17,859 find they're the experts but that still 2956 02:22:20,729 --> 02:22:19,209 doesn't explain just like you're saying 2957 02:22:22,380 --> 02:22:20,739 how do you get it up to relieving 2958 02:22:24,840 --> 02:22:22,390 chamber you know to our brute noughts 2959 02:22:27,029 --> 02:22:24,850 chamber cam belts chamber the higher-ups 2960 02:22:28,619 --> 02:22:27,039 right how do you get 50 ton blocks up 2961 02:22:32,340 --> 02:22:28,629 there we don't have an answer for that 2962 02:22:34,670 --> 02:22:32,350 yeah and the internal ramp theory which 2963 02:22:37,769 --> 02:22:34,680 was interesting 2964 02:22:40,859 --> 02:22:37,779 I'm not comfortable with that the knotch 2965 02:22:44,010 --> 02:22:40,869 and and investigating that not saw that 2966 02:22:46,649 --> 02:22:44,020 notch is a room you can you can walk 2967 02:22:50,130 --> 02:22:46,659 into it definitely but they should have 2968 02:22:52,829 --> 02:22:50,140 been able to find the evidence of an 2969 02:22:55,469 --> 02:22:52,839 internal ramp for the construction they 2970 02:22:57,029 --> 02:22:55,479 would have found it there and that's 2971 02:22:59,210 --> 02:22:57,039 exactly that's what needs to be done 2972 02:23:01,409 --> 02:22:59,220 Jimmy they need to unfortunately 2973 02:23:03,479 --> 02:23:01,419 Ministry hasn't allowed it from what I 2974 02:23:06,840 --> 02:23:03,489 understand right they need to put a muon 2975 02:23:12,269 --> 02:23:06,850 plate a detector plate into that space 2976 02:23:13,829 --> 02:23:12,279 and scan at maybe like 10 20 degrees so 2977 02:23:14,880 --> 02:23:13,839 you're basically capturing muons that 2978 02:23:17,069 --> 02:23:14,890 are coming from the other side of the 2979 02:23:19,469 --> 02:23:17,079 pyramid going straight across and 2980 02:23:21,149 --> 02:23:19,479 hitting the plate to see then you might 2981 02:23:23,969 --> 02:23:21,159 be able to have a higher signal-to-noise 2982 02:23:26,039 --> 02:23:23,979 ratio to measure that Korkis the 2983 02:23:28,769 --> 02:23:26,049 corridor beyond the immediately on the 2984 02:23:30,869 --> 02:23:28,779 other side if it's there and the width 2985 02:23:33,119 --> 02:23:30,879 of that corridor I think who don't 2986 02:23:34,920 --> 02:23:33,129 estimated five cubits or maybe five 2987 02:23:36,659 --> 02:23:34,930 cubits high something like three four 2988 02:23:38,279 --> 02:23:36,669 cubits wide I think you should be able 2989 02:23:40,559 --> 02:23:38,289 to detect it so that's the experiment 2990 02:23:42,539 --> 02:23:40,569 that but see you again they it's you 2991 02:23:44,489 --> 02:23:42,549 there's all these experiments and we 2992 02:23:46,979 --> 02:23:44,499 just can't do them right it'd be great 2993 02:23:49,710 --> 02:23:46,989 to be able to do them now could it be 2994 02:23:51,989 --> 02:23:49,720 and we'll continue after the break and 2995 02:23:55,910 --> 02:23:51,999 we'll go into some overtime but could it 2996 02:23:59,750 --> 02:23:55,920 be that because it was 2997 02:24:03,440 --> 02:23:59,760 just a beautiful design that beautiful 2998 02:24:06,380 --> 02:24:03,450 design creates beautiful math and if 2999 02:24:09,530 --> 02:24:06,390 it's aesthetically appealing you are 3000 02:24:12,560 --> 02:24:09,540 going to get gold and you're gonna get 3001 02:24:15,770 --> 02:24:12,570 pie you're good you're gonna get elegant 3002 02:24:19,040 --> 02:24:15,780 numbers out of it anyway because that's 3003 02:24:20,929 --> 02:24:19,050 what a good design does it doesn't 3004 02:24:23,840 --> 02:24:20,939 necessarily have to lead to the 3005 02:24:27,290 --> 02:24:23,850 holographic universe could be just an 3006 02:24:30,080 --> 02:24:27,300 accident with the math so that's a great 3007 02:24:33,620 --> 02:24:30,090 beautiful question so in in the book 3008 02:24:36,620 --> 02:24:33,630 that I wrote I that's sort of the case I 3009 02:24:39,500 --> 02:24:36,630 made except that I said that the pyramid 3010 02:24:41,710 --> 02:24:39,510 angle the pyramid architecture is based 3011 02:24:44,090 --> 02:24:41,720 on a triangle called a Kepler triangle 3012 02:24:45,950 --> 02:24:44,100 and the Kepler triangle does have a 3013 02:24:48,410 --> 02:24:45,960 golden angle but what I was suggesting 3014 02:24:50,900 --> 02:24:48,420 is that it wasn't the angle that was the 3015 02:24:53,420 --> 02:24:50,910 primary idea but the Dement the vertical 3016 02:24:55,750 --> 02:24:53,430 and the horizontal dimensions and I said 3017 02:24:58,310 --> 02:24:55,760 that those are based on astronomy okay 3018 02:25:01,219 --> 02:24:58,320 they were making astronomical 3019 02:25:04,520 --> 02:25:01,229 observations and they incorporated those 3020 02:25:08,360 --> 02:25:04,530 periods into dimensions for the pyramid 3021 02:25:10,070 --> 02:25:08,370 and the angle Y was the angle golden 3022 02:25:11,690 --> 02:25:10,080 well because the Astronomy has those 3023 02:25:14,090 --> 02:25:11,700 constant right I mean after all it's 3024 02:25:15,560 --> 02:25:14,100 physics there's a physical constants and 3025 02:25:19,280 --> 02:25:15,570 when you look at the sky and you count 3026 02:25:21,740 --> 02:25:19,290 the days of the various periods you're 3027 02:25:23,240 --> 02:25:21,750 importing basically physics and that's 3028 02:25:24,740 --> 02:25:23,250 exactly what you're saying right so 3029 02:25:27,440 --> 02:25:24,750 you're saying that all this math it's 3030 02:25:29,750 --> 02:25:27,450 imported secondarily to something else 3031 02:25:32,390 --> 02:25:29,760 so you said it's the artistic the beauty 3032 02:25:33,890 --> 02:25:32,400 of it absolutely yes and what I was 3033 02:25:35,780 --> 02:25:33,900 basically suggesting is that it was 3034 02:25:38,450 --> 02:25:35,790 astronomy that imported it but they 3035 02:25:40,760 --> 02:25:38,460 didn't actually know that the physics 3036 02:25:42,860 --> 02:25:40,770 came with it okay now you can imagine 3037 02:25:47,960 --> 02:25:42,870 that in alternative history that's not a 3038 02:25:49,550 --> 02:25:47,970 popular theory so okay we're gonna head 3039 02:25:52,790 --> 02:25:49,560 towards a break here but I want your 3040 02:25:57,320 --> 02:25:52,800 comment on this if we push everything up 3041 02:26:01,130 --> 02:25:57,330 to 600 BC yeah and we get over to Greece 3042 02:26:04,610 --> 02:26:01,140 and Pythagoras and as time moved on in 3043 02:26:06,810 --> 02:26:04,620 Greece where they started to get some 3044 02:26:10,160 --> 02:26:06,820 really elegant math going 3045 02:26:14,091 --> 02:26:10,170 and they move that into architecture and 3046 02:26:17,490 --> 02:26:14,101 the the elegance of the math 3047 02:26:20,400 --> 02:26:17,500 incorporated into triangles and columns 3048 02:26:22,950 --> 02:26:20,410 and and and squares and and and 3049 02:26:25,890 --> 02:26:22,960 rectangles and built things that were 3050 02:26:28,680 --> 02:26:25,900 aesthetically appealing based on elegant 3051 02:26:32,220 --> 02:26:28,690 math but that's not what was going on 3052 02:26:35,671 --> 02:26:32,230 2,000 years before that all right the 3053 02:26:38,671 --> 02:26:35,681 Egyptians didn't have any of this or did 3054 02:26:40,950 --> 02:26:38,681 they yeah well we know about Egyptian 3055 02:26:44,671 --> 02:26:40,960 math from papyrus from the Middle 3056 02:26:47,190 --> 02:26:44,681 Kingdom and and we know that there were 3057 02:26:49,440 --> 02:26:47,200 very avid astronomers and I can tell you 3058 02:26:52,410 --> 02:26:49,450 that the Astronomy gives you a lot if 3059 02:26:54,360 --> 02:26:52,420 you and they were very very meticulous 3060 02:26:57,060 --> 02:26:54,370 astronomy I mean they had star shards 3061 02:26:59,970 --> 02:26:57,070 they had the desert the ecliptic mapped 3062 02:27:02,490 --> 02:26:59,980 out and and probably more than that the 3063 02:27:06,301 --> 02:27:02,500 deccan star charts they were counting 3064 02:27:07,860 --> 02:27:06,311 periods there you know they had count of 3065 02:27:11,341 --> 02:27:07,870 course they had a calendar and as you 3066 02:27:14,610 --> 02:27:11,351 know we've all proposed that the Saqqara 3067 02:27:16,801 --> 02:27:14,620 enclosure is basically the the the 3068 02:27:20,850 --> 02:27:16,811 Suffolk cycle right so they were aware 3069 02:27:23,490 --> 02:27:20,860 of super cycles presumably and and so 3070 02:27:25,470 --> 02:27:23,500 they were good astronomers and when 3071 02:27:28,110 --> 02:27:25,480 you're a good astronomer you bring the 3072 02:27:30,360 --> 02:27:28,120 math and the physics with it and if you 3073 02:27:33,841 --> 02:27:30,370 convert those numbers into architectural 3074 02:27:35,430 --> 02:27:33,851 dimensions you you start getting those 3075 02:27:38,580 --> 02:27:35,440 kind of results that the ones that 3076 02:27:40,650 --> 02:27:38,590 you're that you're citing okay and as a 3077 02:27:42,690 --> 02:27:40,660 matter of fact I think that tradition is 3078 02:27:45,751 --> 02:27:42,700 what was passed across the centuries 3079 02:27:48,480 --> 02:27:45,761 down to the ancient Greeks and they used 3080 02:27:51,091 --> 02:27:48,490 exactly the same mathematics which were 3081 02:27:53,041 --> 02:27:51,101 based on astronomy which and yes because 3082 02:27:55,860 --> 02:27:53,051 astronomy is beautiful you get beautiful 3083 02:27:58,381 --> 02:27:55,870 temples now we're gonna head towards a 3084 02:28:02,070 --> 02:27:58,391 break and when we come back I want to 3085 02:28:05,610 --> 02:28:02,080 talk about the Sarah pm4 for a few 3086 02:28:08,160 --> 02:28:05,620 minutes because everything that we have 3087 02:28:09,051 --> 02:28:08,170 all of the issues which are long with 3088 02:28:12,600 --> 02:28:09,061 Giza 3089 02:28:15,751 --> 02:28:12,610 they're duplicated with the Sarah PM the 3090 02:28:17,910 --> 02:28:15,761 impossibility of construction applies 3091 02:28:19,899 --> 02:28:17,920 there just like anything else in Egypt 3092 02:28:21,849 --> 02:28:19,909 doesn't it yes yes 3093 02:28:23,949 --> 02:28:21,859 and you know what let's just take our 3094 02:28:26,349 --> 02:28:23,959 break I want to come back soon as we can 3095 02:28:27,659 --> 02:28:26,359 and finish this up what a great night 3096 02:28:31,209 --> 02:28:27,669 we're going into overtime 3097 02:28:33,760 --> 02:28:31,219 dr. my news say Sade is here and we are 3098 02:28:35,919 --> 02:28:33,770 talking about ancient technology of 3099 02:28:37,419 --> 02:28:35,929 Egypt we will be right back after this 3100 02:28:39,309 --> 02:28:37,429 show break I'm real Jimmy Church 3101 02:28:42,819 --> 02:28:39,319 this is fade to black on the game 3102 02:28:43,640 --> 02:28:42,829 changer Network and Katie RA the planet 3103 02:29:08,630 --> 02:28:43,650 stay with us 3104 02:29:11,820 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--> 02:32:48,340 host Jimmy Church 3175 02:32:54,580 --> 02:32:52,100 we're heading into overtime with dr. 3176 02:32:59,020 --> 02:32:54,590 Mann who saves a day and this is the 3177 02:33:00,630 --> 02:32:59,030 deal for me when I am talking about 3178 02:33:04,260 --> 02:33:00,640 ancient Egypt 3179 02:33:09,820 --> 02:33:04,270 technology there was obviously high tech 3180 02:33:12,610 --> 02:33:09,830 that was used all over the Nile Valley 3181 02:33:16,030 --> 02:33:12,620 there's no question about it and when I 3182 02:33:17,350 --> 02:33:16,040 look at this era pium I would say that 3183 02:33:19,510 --> 02:33:17,360 on planet Earth 3184 02:33:23,340 --> 02:33:19,520 it is one of the most impossible 3185 02:33:26,100 --> 02:33:23,350 constructions that you conceive of I 3186 02:33:30,070 --> 02:33:26,110 assume that you have been there yeah 3187 02:33:32,740 --> 02:33:30,080 when when you walk through and I have 3188 02:33:34,930 --> 02:33:32,750 not been right I've only seen the videos 3189 02:33:37,800 --> 02:33:34,940 and and read all the documentation that 3190 02:33:40,890 --> 02:33:37,810 I can on it but what I see there is 3191 02:33:46,600 --> 02:33:40,900 utterly impossible it's impossible 3192 02:33:52,900 --> 02:33:46,610 impossible but right yes I agree it's 3193 02:33:57,100 --> 02:33:52,910 it's mind-boggling yes yeah I almost I 3194 02:33:59,980 --> 02:33:57,110 almost think that the transport is is 3195 02:34:04,000 --> 02:33:59,990 even harder to understand than the the 3196 02:34:06,700 --> 02:34:04,010 cutting of it because I have no idea how 3197 02:34:09,610 --> 02:34:06,710 you could get those moved into those 3198 02:34:13,120 --> 02:34:09,620 spaces and then then the entry is too 3199 02:34:15,000 --> 02:34:13,130 small to get any of those in there so 3200 02:34:17,830 --> 02:34:15,010 there must have been some other entry 3201 02:34:20,410 --> 02:34:17,840 maybe I think Mohammed might have 3202 02:34:22,510 --> 02:34:20,420 mentioned this or he suspected that 3203 02:34:24,730 --> 02:34:22,520 there is a second entry from the other 3204 02:34:26,440 --> 02:34:24,740 side that's how they got him in but 3205 02:34:29,350 --> 02:34:26,450 that's the first thing I noticed why I 3206 02:34:32,080 --> 02:34:29,360 said how the heck were these put what 3207 02:34:35,170 --> 02:34:32,090 they transported in if you've ever moved 3208 02:34:38,860 --> 02:34:35,180 a couch up a flight of stairs into a 3209 02:34:42,460 --> 02:34:38,870 second-floor apartment and know about 3210 02:34:44,140 --> 02:34:42,470 her refrigerator and and and just wonder 3211 02:34:48,490 --> 02:34:44,150 did they build these apartments around 3212 02:34:51,430 --> 02:34:48,500 the couches right the refrigerators here 3213 02:34:53,800 --> 02:34:51,440 first because this is impossible right 3214 02:34:55,250 --> 02:34:53,810 well then you go and you look at the 3215 02:34:56,870 --> 02:34:55,260 Sarah p.m. and 3216 02:35:00,980 --> 02:34:56,880 you look at the cutting of the corners 3217 02:35:03,940 --> 02:35:00,990 there what came first and you're 3218 02:35:09,410 --> 02:35:03,950 absolutely right with is there an access 3219 02:35:14,120 --> 02:35:09,420 serve this hallway is going up the back 3220 02:35:19,429 --> 02:35:14,130 but it's it's an absolute phenomenal 3221 02:35:24,019 --> 02:35:19,439 feat of Engineering yeah that maybe that 3222 02:35:26,269 --> 02:35:24,029 might even topped the obelisks just 3223 02:35:29,300 --> 02:35:26,279 because because of delivering them into 3224 02:35:33,170 --> 02:35:29,310 those spaces maybe the cutting of it 3225 02:35:38,360 --> 02:35:33,180 maybe similar technology as the obelisk 3226 02:35:40,090 --> 02:35:38,370 okay but and then the rafters and you 3227 02:35:44,019 --> 02:35:40,100 know relieving Jim like you were saying 3228 02:35:46,670 --> 02:35:44,029 but those those are so finely crafted 3229 02:35:48,530 --> 02:35:46,680 and we I think we were only allowed to 3230 02:35:51,650 --> 02:35:48,540 get into one of them there's one at the 3231 02:35:54,440 --> 02:35:51,660 end that you allowed to I think or look 3232 02:35:58,309 --> 02:35:54,450 into look inside and think that one had 3233 02:36:01,040 --> 02:35:58,319 some inscriptions on it but yes it's 3234 02:36:03,080 --> 02:36:01,050 it's Egyptology has to explain it I they 3235 02:36:05,809 --> 02:36:03,090 and I think the way to explain it is to 3236 02:36:07,700 --> 02:36:05,819 demonstrate the production of one of 3237 02:36:09,830 --> 02:36:07,710 those I think that's what they need to 3238 02:36:12,620 --> 02:36:09,840 do if they want to convince the world 3239 02:36:15,440 --> 02:36:12,630 that this was done with the technology 3240 02:36:17,780 --> 02:36:15,450 that we think they had then that we have 3241 02:36:19,820 --> 02:36:17,790 evidence for I I mean then they should 3242 02:36:22,099 --> 02:36:19,830 show it okay I don't think it's been 3243 02:36:28,940 --> 02:36:22,109 done no I would love to see somebody 3244 02:36:32,059 --> 02:36:28,950 carve a 20-ton lid right move it just 3245 02:36:34,099 --> 02:36:32,069 make it smooth as glass for me forget 3246 02:36:35,840 --> 02:36:34,109 about the hieroglyphics we can do we can 3247 02:36:39,139 --> 02:36:35,850 you know let's eliminate all of that 3248 02:36:41,630 --> 02:36:39,149 just make it perfect and and and get 3249 02:36:44,179 --> 02:36:41,640 back to me because that's the part about 3250 02:36:48,950 --> 02:36:44,189 it when you look at this I have I've not 3251 02:36:53,330 --> 02:36:48,960 been there but I have seen one of the 3252 02:36:56,660 --> 02:36:53,340 black granite sarcophagus at the 3253 02:37:00,050 --> 02:36:56,670 Metropolitan Museum in New York and you 3254 02:37:01,760 --> 02:37:00,060 go up to that and you look and you look 3255 02:37:04,850 --> 02:37:01,770 at the lid first off this thing is 3256 02:37:07,910 --> 02:37:04,860 taller than me right and 3257 02:37:13,100 --> 02:37:07,920 and I don't know it's it's 10 12 14 feet 3258 02:37:16,581 --> 02:37:13,110 long 6 8 feet wide 6 feet tall the walls 3259 02:37:19,190 --> 02:37:16,591 of the granite sarcophagus are I don't 3260 02:37:21,680 --> 02:37:19,200 know foot and a half thick I don't think 3261 02:37:23,990 --> 02:37:21,690 they're quite 2 feet but you look and 3262 02:37:26,211 --> 02:37:24,000 you look at the lid and you observe this 3263 02:37:29,631 --> 02:37:26,221 and all you can think of because I went 3264 02:37:32,870 --> 02:37:29,641 up when you look at the the perfection 3265 02:37:35,270 --> 02:37:32,880 of it and all you can think of about is 3266 02:37:40,160 --> 02:37:35,280 not it that it's beautiful because it is 3267 02:37:42,921 --> 02:37:40,170 you think how was this made yeah now how 3268 02:37:45,261 --> 02:37:42,931 how is this possible 3269 02:37:47,001 --> 02:37:45,271 well let me let me give you another 3270 02:37:52,961 --> 02:37:47,011 piece of evidence which is fascinating 3271 02:37:58,041 --> 02:37:52,971 so I was looking at Ludwig Borchardt old 3272 02:38:00,560 --> 02:37:58,051 survey of Sahara's pyramid ok and in the 3273 02:38:04,430 --> 02:38:00,570 valley temple there is a granite door 3274 02:38:07,131 --> 02:38:04,440 jamb and into this door jamb they 3275 02:38:09,560 --> 02:38:07,141 basically drilled fittings right to put 3276 02:38:13,490 --> 02:38:09,570 the door guard and then the bolts in it 3277 02:38:15,801 --> 02:38:13,500 and so they found and these are photos 3278 02:38:18,620 --> 02:38:15,811 from over a hundred years ago 39 very 3279 02:38:21,680 --> 02:38:18,630 high-resolution photos so you see you 3280 02:38:23,660 --> 02:38:21,690 know a Chris Dunn examined the Petri 3281 02:38:26,150 --> 02:38:23,670 cone number seven you went to the Petrie 3282 02:38:30,711 --> 02:38:26,160 Museum and here and he discovered that 3283 02:38:32,091 --> 02:38:30,721 is a spiral okay so so I saw I looked at 3284 02:38:35,450 --> 02:38:32,101 this photo and I actually put this up on 3285 02:38:37,820 --> 02:38:35,460 my public Facebook page and I tagged 3286 02:38:40,341 --> 02:38:37,830 Chris Dunn to take a look at it and see 3287 02:38:43,461 --> 02:38:40,351 if you can reconstruct a spiral from 3288 02:38:46,671 --> 02:38:43,471 that image because ended but regardless 3289 02:38:49,461 --> 02:38:46,681 Jimmy the grain in other words the the 3290 02:38:52,820 --> 02:38:49,471 threat of the drilling instrument that 3291 02:38:57,530 --> 02:38:52,830 made that hole in our granite is superb 3292 02:39:00,261 --> 02:38:57,540 it is so delicate it is perfect okay 3293 02:39:03,020 --> 02:39:00,271 that that is not some some tool that's 3294 02:39:04,430 --> 02:39:03,030 being scratched around you know many 3295 02:39:07,791 --> 02:39:04,440 times and you have all these scratch 3296 02:39:10,131 --> 02:39:07,801 marks no this is a very sharp tiny 3297 02:39:12,051 --> 02:39:10,141 groove that's and I don't know if it's a 3298 02:39:15,291 --> 02:39:12,061 spiral but if it is a spiral which is 3299 02:39:16,691 --> 02:39:15,301 what Chris done his point was it has to 3300 02:39:19,541 --> 02:39:16,701 be there's no way that 3301 02:39:22,031 --> 02:39:19,551 muscle human muscle can drive a drill 3302 02:39:23,201 --> 02:39:22,041 bit into stone like that that's not 3303 02:39:27,911 --> 02:39:23,211 that's not possible 3304 02:39:29,621 --> 02:39:27,921 so when when mark Lehner and Dennis 3305 02:39:32,081 --> 02:39:29,631 talked a few years ago they tried to 3306 02:39:35,561 --> 02:39:32,091 reproduce a drill into granite right and 3307 02:39:38,531 --> 02:39:35,571 they used a copper tube with with an 3308 02:39:40,601 --> 02:39:38,541 abrasive and so you know took him days 3309 02:39:43,961 --> 02:39:40,611 to get this plug out of the granite and 3310 02:39:46,930 --> 02:39:43,971 then they they they removed the plug and 3311 02:39:49,151 --> 02:39:46,940 they looked at it and they said look 3312 02:39:52,241 --> 02:39:49,161 we've got we reproduced the experiment 3313 02:39:55,451 --> 02:39:52,251 but did they really because if you look 3314 02:39:57,191 --> 02:39:55,461 at the thread on the hole there is no 3315 02:40:01,711 --> 02:39:57,201 threat not that I could see on the video 3316 02:40:05,501 --> 02:40:01,721 no your smooth I've seen it I've seen it 3317 02:40:10,271 --> 02:40:05,511 the same thing though and I want to go 3318 02:40:13,751 --> 02:40:10,281 back to this point because there is at 3319 02:40:18,281 --> 02:40:13,761 different locations in Egypt you can 3320 02:40:20,861 --> 02:40:18,291 find the granite plug that was removed 3321 02:40:23,051 --> 02:40:20,871 from the hole yeah I don't know how you 3322 02:40:24,701 --> 02:40:23,061 know over a few thousand years that 3323 02:40:28,871 --> 02:40:24,711 somehow these plugs are sitting right 3324 02:40:31,421 --> 02:40:28,881 next to the hole but it's not it's not 3325 02:40:34,391 --> 02:40:31,431 the opposite what most people think when 3326 02:40:37,331 --> 02:40:34,401 they look at these gorgeous perfect 3327 02:40:42,001 --> 02:40:37,341 holes they think that it was drilled out 3328 02:40:45,011 --> 02:40:42,011 that what was there is now granite dust 3329 02:40:48,851 --> 02:40:45,021 that's not the case the plug is right 3330 02:40:52,571 --> 02:40:48,861 there which shows to everybody that it 3331 02:40:55,991 --> 02:40:52,581 was some kind of circular hole drill 3332 02:41:00,911 --> 02:40:56,001 yeah like a cookie cutter like what you 3333 02:41:04,421 --> 02:41:00,921 use to put a door handle in a doorknob 3334 02:41:06,371 --> 02:41:04,431 right a large circular drill right now 3335 02:41:08,680 --> 02:41:06,381 we've got to go back into time here 3336 02:41:09,161 --> 02:41:08,690 let's go back 5,000 years ago 4,000 3337 02:41:13,031 --> 02:41:09,171 years ago 3338 02:41:18,430 --> 02:41:13,041 and imagine what the Egyptians were 3339 02:41:22,841 --> 02:41:18,440 doing to cut out a plug how is that 3340 02:41:24,731 --> 02:41:22,851 possible it wasn't done with I don't 3341 02:41:28,770 --> 02:41:24,741 want to see chicken bones because that 3342 02:41:32,791 --> 02:41:28,780 is sarcastic right but 3343 02:41:35,581 --> 02:41:32,801 with wet sand and some kind of circular 3344 02:41:36,951 --> 02:41:35,591 you know hole drill that would be 3345 02:41:41,001 --> 02:41:36,961 labor-intensive 3346 02:41:45,421 --> 02:41:41,011 it wouldn't be perfect that these are 3347 02:41:49,020 --> 02:41:45,431 perfect holes with a perfect plug 3348 02:41:52,501 --> 02:41:49,030 without mistakes that's the part that 3349 02:41:56,270 --> 02:41:52,511 and so somehow whatever it was and I 3350 02:42:00,331 --> 02:41:56,280 always go back to this mono it was easy 3351 02:42:02,761 --> 02:42:00,341 whatever the Egyptians were doing it was 3352 02:42:05,941 --> 02:42:02,771 easy yeah they had the right tools to 3353 02:42:07,651 --> 02:42:05,951 make it easy yes and I would love to go 3354 02:42:09,661 --> 02:42:07,661 back that's that's the time machine 3355 02:42:12,121 --> 02:42:09,671 element so many people have asked me 3356 02:42:13,801 --> 02:42:12,131 where I would go you know what I would 3357 02:42:16,621 --> 02:42:13,811 go right back I would go to the Great 3358 02:42:18,180 --> 02:42:16,631 Pyramid I would go right there you 3359 02:42:22,171 --> 02:42:18,190 should come you should come with me next 3360 02:42:24,991 --> 02:42:22,181 time well I mean back in time oh I mean 3361 02:42:30,180 --> 02:42:25,001 I would go I'd want to go see this is 3362 02:42:31,230 --> 02:42:30,190 the problem okay let's say I had a crack 3363 02:42:35,251 --> 02:42:31,240 at the time machine 3364 02:42:37,560 --> 02:42:35,261 right okay I'm going back to 26 50 BC 3365 02:42:41,191 --> 02:42:37,570 and I want to see how they built the 3366 02:42:43,831 --> 02:42:41,201 Great Pyramid and you go back to 26 50 3367 02:42:45,691 --> 02:42:43,841 BC and the frigging thing is already 3368 02:42:48,631 --> 02:42:45,701 there yeah right 3369 02:42:52,020 --> 02:42:48,641 you need to know what time period to go 3370 02:42:53,671 --> 02:42:52,030 back to to see the construction right if 3371 02:42:55,470 --> 02:42:53,681 you only have one shot to go back right 3372 02:42:57,091 --> 02:42:55,480 then what if you miss it what if you 3373 02:43:00,180 --> 02:42:57,101 miss it and that thing is already there 3374 02:43:03,151 --> 02:43:00,190 that's why I think okay now let's go 3375 02:43:09,511 --> 02:43:03,161 back to Khufu and Khafre and Menkaure 3376 02:43:15,571 --> 02:43:09,521 I the absent of hieroglyphics yes good 3377 02:43:18,600 --> 02:43:15,581 question one okay one explanation I have 3378 02:43:20,640 --> 02:43:18,610 is that the old kingdom if let's say 3379 02:43:24,151 --> 02:43:20,650 this isn't it old kingdom production 3380 02:43:27,901 --> 02:43:24,161 let's say I can tell you that the old 3381 02:43:31,491 --> 02:43:27,911 kingdom style of relief and inscription 3382 02:43:34,171 --> 02:43:31,501 was very classy and very sort of 3383 02:43:38,041 --> 02:43:34,181 minimalistic okay 3384 02:43:39,720 --> 02:43:38,051 very different from later art New 3385 02:43:42,700 --> 02:43:39,730 Kingdom especially it was in your face 3386 02:43:44,860 --> 02:43:42,710 the Old Kingdom artists were 3387 02:43:46,929 --> 02:43:44,870 they were a restraint okay so that's 3388 02:43:50,800 --> 02:43:46,939 that was sort of part of the culture at 3389 02:43:52,840 --> 02:43:50,810 the time that might explain why the 3390 02:43:54,340 --> 02:43:52,850 pyramids were not inscribed that's one 3391 02:43:55,870 --> 02:43:54,350 way to explain it then there may have 3392 02:43:57,910 --> 02:43:55,880 been inscription thereon and it was 3393 02:44:00,429 --> 02:43:57,920 stripped right apparently there's an 3394 02:44:02,860 --> 02:44:00,439 Arab scholar and I forget the name right 3395 02:44:05,620 --> 02:44:02,870 now who says that the pyramid was 3396 02:44:08,110 --> 02:44:05,630 actually inscribed on the casing was 3397 02:44:12,010 --> 02:44:08,120 that the Old Kingdom symbols we don't 3398 02:44:14,469 --> 02:44:12,020 know then another call the possibility 3399 02:44:17,349 --> 02:44:14,479 is it wasn't finished okay 3400 02:44:19,660 --> 02:44:17,359 it was and then the fourth possibility 3401 02:44:22,929 --> 02:44:19,670 is that there were texts but they 3402 02:44:25,059 --> 02:44:22,939 weren't carved into the walls but they 3403 02:44:27,790 --> 02:44:25,069 were on on some other carrier let's say 3404 02:44:29,979 --> 02:44:27,800 papyrus so for example there's there's 3405 02:44:32,320 --> 02:44:29,989 some speculation that Pyramid Texts were 3406 02:44:36,840 --> 02:44:32,330 initially on papyrus and then they were 3407 02:44:39,160 --> 02:44:36,850 carved into the walls of the pyramid now 3408 02:44:40,450 --> 02:44:39,170 let's go to the next one they weren't 3409 02:44:42,490 --> 02:44:40,460 inscribed because they are anachronistic 3410 02:44:44,139 --> 02:44:42,500 right which is what you're implying so 3411 02:44:46,240 --> 02:44:44,149 they not from that time which is why 3412 02:44:48,280 --> 02:44:46,250 they don't have any symbols okay so 3413 02:44:49,360 --> 02:44:48,290 there is actually four symbols you know 3414 02:44:51,400 --> 02:44:49,370 about those right it's interesting 3415 02:44:53,830 --> 02:44:51,410 there's four symbols that look like 3416 02:44:55,540 --> 02:44:53,840 Sanskrit or something like that on on 3417 02:45:01,210 --> 02:44:55,550 the front have you seen those I have 3418 02:45:04,750 --> 02:45:01,220 yeah so I think Robert Schoch actually 3419 02:45:07,330 --> 02:45:04,760 has published a translation of that in 3420 02:45:09,939 --> 02:45:07,340 one of his books and I can't remember 3421 02:45:12,340 --> 02:45:09,949 how he translated it but he thought that 3422 02:45:14,349 --> 02:45:12,350 maybe he identify you compared those 3423 02:45:16,150 --> 02:45:14,359 symbols to something else so there is 3424 02:45:18,160 --> 02:45:16,160 that and then there is another there is 3425 02:45:20,170 --> 02:45:18,170 another inscription which we look at 3426 02:45:21,700 --> 02:45:20,180 every day Jimmy you've looked at this it 3427 02:45:24,910 --> 02:45:21,710 is actually a here there's two here 3428 02:45:28,599 --> 02:45:24,920 eclipses okay on the pyramid you know 3429 02:45:32,170 --> 02:45:28,609 the entry right has those two v inverted 3430 02:45:33,130 --> 02:45:32,180 V be shaved you reshaped rafters right 3431 02:45:35,979 --> 02:45:33,140 that's right that's right 3432 02:45:39,189 --> 02:45:35,989 yeah he's huge rafters right well that's 3433 02:45:43,750 --> 02:45:39,199 a here glyph Jimmy right so the two that 3434 02:45:47,019 --> 02:45:43,760 is the the sound help okay and below 3435 02:45:50,530 --> 02:45:47,029 that is a stone that's cut like a 3436 02:45:53,650 --> 02:45:50,540 mountain range and so that those two 3437 02:45:56,530 --> 02:45:53,660 symbols together means the the mountain 3438 02:46:00,130 --> 02:45:56,540 of a P which is the stay 3439 02:46:03,130 --> 02:46:00,140 ball deity that supposedly was buried in 3440 02:46:04,180 --> 02:46:03,140 the sere pian okay so there is so 3441 02:46:05,710 --> 02:46:04,190 technically speaking there is a 3442 02:46:08,170 --> 02:46:05,720 megalithic inscription on the Great 3443 02:46:10,210 --> 02:46:08,180 Pyramid if that's is how it was meant 3444 02:46:13,420 --> 02:46:10,220 okay but certainly that's a miracle if 3445 02:46:16,690 --> 02:46:13,430 you can it's very well known here glyph 3446 02:46:19,570 --> 02:46:16,700 that has that inverted V basically and 3447 02:46:22,060 --> 02:46:19,580 then beneath is the stone that stone is 3448 02:46:25,080 --> 02:46:22,070 maybe four foot wide I want to say maybe 3449 02:46:28,090 --> 02:46:25,090 two foot high and it has carved into it 3450 02:46:31,660 --> 02:46:28,100 and I got Camelback it looks like a cat 3451 02:46:33,040 --> 02:46:31,670 like a two arms basically so that that 3452 02:46:34,990 --> 02:46:33,050 that's an inscription but it's an 3453 02:46:38,380 --> 02:46:35,000 archaic inscription that reminds me of 3454 02:46:41,290 --> 02:46:38,390 Gobekli Tepe type inscription that we 3455 02:46:44,110 --> 02:46:41,300 don't even think is from 9,500 BC or you 3456 02:46:47,250 --> 02:46:44,120 know a Robert and I are we have begun to 3457 02:46:51,130 --> 02:46:47,260 propose a script on those pillars and 3458 02:46:54,400 --> 02:46:51,140 that that's the style that reminds me of 3459 02:46:56,350 --> 02:46:54,410 what I see in that megalithic symbolism 3460 02:46:57,790 --> 02:46:56,360 on the Great Pyramid so maybe Adnan and 3461 02:47:02,440 --> 02:46:57,800 then one more point I want to make for 3462 02:47:05,770 --> 02:47:02,450 me I do not agree with Scott Crichton on 3463 02:47:08,680 --> 02:47:05,780 the fraud theory okay however I think he 3464 02:47:12,100 --> 02:47:08,690 did an amazing job with his evidence 3465 02:47:13,810 --> 02:47:12,110 searching and but he he he makes a 3466 02:47:16,420 --> 02:47:13,820 testable prediction which is what you do 3467 02:47:19,180 --> 02:47:16,430 in science that if you drill a small 3468 02:47:22,000 --> 02:47:19,190 probe behind that hidden cartouche next 3469 02:47:24,430 --> 02:47:22,010 to the one you should be able if he's 3470 02:47:27,310 --> 02:47:24,440 right you should not be able to find 3471 02:47:29,020 --> 02:47:27,320 pigment okay and if he's wrong then that 3472 02:47:31,600 --> 02:47:29,030 car to you will be able to find red 3473 02:47:34,150 --> 02:47:31,610 pigment behind the lip of that stone 3474 02:47:37,330 --> 02:47:34,160 that's resting against the wall that's 3475 02:47:39,850 --> 02:47:37,340 how you do sign so I'm he did a great 3476 02:47:41,350 --> 02:47:39,860 job with his evidence and he makes a 3477 02:47:44,860 --> 02:47:41,360 testable prediction that's what you do 3478 02:47:47,050 --> 02:47:44,870 in science but is he is he right do I 3479 02:47:49,120 --> 02:47:47,060 think he's right no because there is 14 3480 02:47:51,310 --> 02:47:49,130 different car - she's okay 3481 02:47:52,930 --> 02:47:51,320 now you could still say well there's 3482 02:47:54,880 --> 02:47:52,940 only two of them that mention Khufu 3483 02:47:57,520 --> 02:47:54,890 there's a couple that are Khufu's other 3484 02:47:59,230 --> 02:47:57,530 name and then the other ones are khanoom 3485 02:48:00,940 --> 02:47:59,240 kouf and of course the critics will say 3486 02:48:04,660 --> 02:48:00,950 that's not cool ooh that's some that's 3487 02:48:08,500 --> 02:48:04,670 somebody else but is it possible that 3488 02:48:10,480 --> 02:48:08,510 vice that tape they faked all of those 3489 02:48:14,711 --> 02:48:10,490 14 cartoons I think that's highly 3490 02:48:18,490 --> 02:48:14,721 likely why I think that Scott laid out a 3491 02:48:20,770 --> 02:48:18,500 pretty good case of experimentation she 3492 02:48:24,131 --> 02:48:20,780 did for that yeah for that one car - she 3493 02:48:27,910 --> 02:48:24,141 did yeah and and and Howard Vice in his 3494 02:48:31,810 --> 02:48:27,920 own notes looked to me like he was 3495 02:48:34,511 --> 02:48:31,820 teaching himself as the symbolism of a 3496 02:48:36,270 --> 02:48:34,521 cartouche whether it was vertical was 3497 02:48:39,341 --> 02:48:36,280 horizontal 3498 02:48:42,790 --> 02:48:39,351 how to pronounce it correctly there was 3499 02:48:46,140 --> 02:48:42,800 too much how do I say the 3500 02:48:48,370 --> 02:48:46,150 experimentation I think Howard Vice was 3501 02:48:51,970 --> 02:48:48,380 piecing this together because if you go 3502 02:48:54,280 --> 02:48:51,980 back to that period of the early 1800s 3503 02:48:57,100 --> 02:48:54,290 when vice and other he wasn't the only 3504 02:49:00,671 --> 02:48:57,110 one everybody was going to Egypt to 3505 02:49:02,740 --> 02:49:00,681 become famous and and and Howard Vice 3506 02:49:05,860 --> 02:49:02,750 was right there with everybody else he 3507 02:49:09,100 --> 02:49:05,870 wasn't a professional archaeologist he 3508 02:49:13,410 --> 02:49:09,110 was basically a rich criminal from his 3509 02:49:16,480 --> 02:49:13,420 family back in England that going there 3510 02:49:20,200 --> 02:49:16,490 trying to make the discovery of a 3511 02:49:23,740 --> 02:49:20,210 lifetime that part of it I think Scott 3512 02:49:26,500 --> 02:49:23,750 has laid out a very very very strong 3513 02:49:29,711 --> 02:49:26,510 case wholly agree totally amazing joy 3514 02:49:32,740 --> 02:49:29,721 he's an amazing prosecutor you know the 3515 02:49:35,500 --> 02:49:32,750 jaw my tail no yeah yeah absolutely 3516 02:49:37,511 --> 02:49:35,510 so my opinion does not do de Kate this 3517 02:49:40,780 --> 02:49:37,521 and by no means this is signed so if 3518 02:49:43,360 --> 02:49:40,790 this is what you do you set up your 3519 02:49:46,240 --> 02:49:43,370 model so he is basically proposing a 3520 02:49:48,461 --> 02:49:46,250 fraud and then you then the model has to 3521 02:49:51,520 --> 02:49:48,471 make a testable prediction and his his 3522 02:49:53,711 --> 02:49:51,530 does and of course the problem is again 3523 02:49:55,750 --> 02:49:53,721 we can't do the test right we can't make 3524 02:49:57,910 --> 02:49:55,760 a small probe hole because they all 3525 02:50:01,810 --> 02:49:57,920 thought ministry won't let us but at 3526 02:50:03,700 --> 02:50:01,820 least he did Scott did his thing he came 3527 02:50:05,650 --> 02:50:03,710 up with the model it makes a test of 3528 02:50:07,690 --> 02:50:05,660 prediction now we have to wait but this 3529 02:50:10,511 --> 02:50:07,700 this issue could easily be put to rest 3530 02:50:12,790 --> 02:50:10,521 with a simple experiment well and this 3531 02:50:15,910 --> 02:50:12,800 the relieving chambers and the graffiti 3532 02:50:18,520 --> 02:50:15,920 up there wasn't the only criminal 3533 02:50:21,910 --> 02:50:18,530 activity of Howard Vice that wasn't the 3534 02:50:24,160 --> 02:50:21,920 only thing he was busted on and 3535 02:50:26,349 --> 02:50:24,170 he was he was finding things all over 3536 02:50:29,500 --> 02:50:26,359 the Giza Plateau that we know are 3537 02:50:32,139 --> 02:50:29,510 completely questionable now I don't 3538 02:50:35,559 --> 02:50:32,149 think that any of his discoveries hold 3539 02:50:37,510 --> 02:50:35,569 water but going back to that's just me 3540 02:50:41,160 --> 02:50:37,520 and certainly Scott Crichton has laid 3541 02:50:44,710 --> 02:50:41,170 out I've read his book now four times 3542 02:50:47,889 --> 02:50:44,720 it's a it's an incredible book but now 3543 02:50:51,160 --> 02:50:47,899 let's go back for a second when we are 3544 02:50:53,950 --> 02:50:51,170 talking about those pigments whether it 3545 02:50:57,700 --> 02:50:53,960 was iron red oak or how you know 3546 02:50:59,830 --> 02:50:57,710 whatever that is made up from today 3547 02:51:04,030 --> 02:50:59,840 you're not allowed to photograph those 3548 02:51:05,860 --> 02:51:04,040 you're not allowed up there you the the 3549 02:51:08,200 --> 02:51:05,870 only person that went up there and 3550 02:51:11,200 --> 02:51:08,210 scraped and went back to Germany is a 3551 02:51:13,510 --> 02:51:11,210 guy criminal charges laid on him so 3552 02:51:16,090 --> 02:51:13,520 there isn't any testing that is allowed 3553 02:51:18,189 --> 02:51:16,100 either and we aren't able to you're 3554 02:51:23,380 --> 02:51:18,199 talking about drilling how about 3555 02:51:27,040 --> 02:51:23,390 chipping away of one of the side blocks 3556 02:51:31,240 --> 02:51:27,050 to see if the cartouche does indeed 3557 02:51:32,110 --> 02:51:31,250 extend into the joint yeah that's 3558 02:51:34,439 --> 02:51:32,120 exactly right 3559 02:51:38,040 --> 02:51:34,449 yes that should be done unfortunately 3560 02:51:42,010 --> 02:51:38,050 that does that would answer everything 3561 02:51:43,360 --> 02:51:42,020 right if the cartouche it does exist it 3562 02:51:47,469 --> 02:51:43,370 behind the joint 3563 02:51:52,059 --> 02:51:47,479 that means the gangs of Khufu painted 3564 02:51:54,309 --> 02:51:52,069 those on at the quarry or at at the site 3565 02:51:56,889 --> 02:51:54,319 of the Great Pyramid before they placed 3566 02:52:00,070 --> 02:51:56,899 them into the rafters and and the floors 3567 02:52:01,960 --> 02:52:00,080 but they won't let you do that oh that's 3568 02:52:03,910 --> 02:52:01,970 right that that's Jimmy why we have so 3569 02:52:05,800 --> 02:52:03,920 much infighting because we're because we 3570 02:52:08,710 --> 02:52:05,810 can't do experiments and so then people 3571 02:52:11,019 --> 02:52:08,720 get upset and they start arguing and 3572 02:52:13,870 --> 02:52:11,029 they in the substitute their opinions 3573 02:52:17,500 --> 02:52:13,880 instead of data and that's why this is 3574 02:52:18,250 --> 02:52:17,510 such a you know such a chaotic field on 3575 02:52:21,160 --> 02:52:18,260 both sides 3576 02:52:22,780 --> 02:52:21,170 Egyptology alternative history it's 3577 02:52:25,269 --> 02:52:22,790 because we can't do experiments and then 3578 02:52:26,500 --> 02:52:25,279 we people get frustrated and they and 3579 02:52:29,679 --> 02:52:26,510 then they take matters into their own 3580 02:52:31,960 --> 02:52:29,689 hands and they end up doing things which 3581 02:52:34,330 --> 02:52:31,970 are not professionally done and then the 3582 02:52:35,500 --> 02:52:34,340 authorities clamp down even further so 3583 02:52:38,620 --> 02:52:35,510 it's like a catch it's 3584 02:52:40,510 --> 02:52:38,630 it's like a vicious cycle I I certainly 3585 02:52:42,490 --> 02:52:40,520 do not think it's a good idea to go to 3586 02:52:45,070 --> 02:52:42,500 Egypt and do experiments on your own 3587 02:52:47,500 --> 02:52:45,080 without a permission and without having 3588 02:52:49,660 --> 02:52:47,510 sir surveyors for the simple reason that 3589 02:52:52,690 --> 02:52:49,670 you need witnesses when you find 3590 02:52:54,400 --> 02:52:52,700 something of importance right you want 3591 02:52:54,940 --> 02:52:54,410 to you want to first of all not even 3592 02:52:57,130 --> 02:52:54,950 touch it 3593 02:52:59,740 --> 02:52:57,140 you just want to take pictures and film 3594 02:53:02,290 --> 02:52:59,750 it in its original position so you have 3595 02:53:04,599 --> 02:53:02,300 provenance that it's an archaeological 3596 02:53:06,820 --> 02:53:04,609 term it's very important and then you 3597 02:53:08,530 --> 02:53:06,830 gradually take samples right and you 3598 02:53:11,080 --> 02:53:08,540 don't destroy it and all these things 3599 02:53:13,269 --> 02:53:11,090 but when you have amateurs that do those 3600 02:53:14,469 --> 02:53:13,279 things on their own then who knows what 3601 02:53:16,599 --> 02:53:14,479 they're gonna do you know they could 3602 02:53:18,610 --> 02:53:16,609 destroy it they could remove it and then 3603 02:53:21,370 --> 02:53:18,620 even let's say they get let's imagine 3604 02:53:24,910 --> 02:53:21,380 that the tragedy if somebody takes a 3605 02:53:26,950 --> 02:53:24,920 sample secretly and have it analyzed and 3606 02:53:28,599 --> 02:53:26,960 oh it's ten thousand years old and then 3607 02:53:30,340 --> 02:53:28,609 you have to prove that you took that 3608 02:53:34,360 --> 02:53:30,350 sample from where you say you took it 3609 02:53:36,519 --> 02:53:34,370 right there yeah and there is where 3610 02:53:40,450 --> 02:53:36,529 we're out of time but I want to go back 3611 02:53:42,280 --> 02:53:40,460 and address two different questions that 3612 02:53:45,000 --> 02:53:42,290 were sent in tonight I didn't get a 3613 02:53:48,880 --> 02:53:45,010 chance it deals with high technology and 3614 02:53:50,980 --> 02:53:48,890 one of them is from a truth seeker said 3615 02:53:53,230 --> 02:53:50,990 what about using the water from the Nile 3616 02:53:56,440 --> 02:53:53,240 to float pieces into place through 3617 02:53:59,320 --> 02:53:56,450 pressure shafts inside of the Great 3618 02:54:01,929 --> 02:53:59,330 Pyramid and on the other side of that is 3619 02:54:04,059 --> 02:54:01,939 please ask money was thoughts about the 3620 02:54:08,370 --> 02:54:04,069 Egyptians having electromagnetic 3621 02:54:11,800 --> 02:54:08,380 technology Christopher Dunn points out 3622 02:54:14,559 --> 02:54:11,810 and addresses this yet he talks about 3623 02:54:18,280 --> 02:54:14,569 lasers he talks about Diamond tip 3624 02:54:22,150 --> 02:54:18,290 cutters at high speed drills and high 3625 02:54:25,990 --> 02:54:22,160 speed saws all technology that would 3626 02:54:28,960 --> 02:54:26,000 have required an energy source and also 3627 02:54:31,269 --> 02:54:28,970 using it as a power plant and and 3628 02:54:33,820 --> 02:54:31,279 flooding those chambers I always talked 3629 02:54:36,460 --> 02:54:33,830 about all of this do you think that type 3630 02:54:37,240 --> 02:54:36,470 of high technology we've got four 3631 02:54:40,960 --> 02:54:37,250 minutes left 3632 02:54:45,190 --> 02:54:40,970 that type of extreme high tech was 3633 02:54:48,670 --> 02:54:45,200 available to the Egyptians back then so 3634 02:54:49,149 --> 02:54:48,680 my answer to that is that I like out of 3635 02:54:51,340 --> 02:54:49,159 the box 3636 02:54:53,949 --> 02:54:51,350 ideas that this hydrology model is great 3637 02:54:55,899 --> 02:54:53,959 I like it but what I what I'd like to 3638 02:54:57,699 --> 02:54:55,909 see is since I'm not an engineer I'd 3639 02:55:00,489 --> 02:54:57,709 like to see this in action if you can 3640 02:55:03,249 --> 02:55:00,499 show it to me in actually if you can 3641 02:55:08,349 --> 02:55:03,259 show me how you floating up a block with 3642 02:55:10,179 --> 02:55:08,359 water up against gravity then hey I'm if 3643 02:55:12,819 --> 02:55:10,189 I can see it with my own eyes if it's 3644 02:55:16,479 --> 02:55:12,829 well done it's a good experiment and yes 3645 02:55:18,039 --> 02:55:16,489 I'll believe it on paper I can't judge 3646 02:55:20,529 --> 02:55:18,049 it it's difficult for me to judge a 3647 02:55:23,229 --> 02:55:20,539 right electromagnetism so there has been 3648 02:55:25,209 --> 02:55:23,239 a paper that did a simulation that 3649 02:55:27,539 --> 02:55:25,219 suggests that the Great Pyramid is 3650 02:55:30,729 --> 02:55:27,549 something in that shape can concentrate 3651 02:55:32,139 --> 02:55:30,739 electromagnetism in inside and of course 3652 02:55:35,760 --> 02:55:32,149 there's people that go in the pyramid 3653 02:55:38,249 --> 02:55:35,770 they feel ultrasonic I mean sonic 3654 02:55:40,239 --> 02:55:38,259 experiences they have electromagnetic 3655 02:55:42,309 --> 02:55:40,249 experiences energy is what they're 3656 02:55:44,800 --> 02:55:42,319 describing and I think it's real it has 3657 02:55:46,869 --> 02:55:44,810 to do with the shape of the pyramid I 3658 02:55:50,130 --> 02:55:46,879 think when you have a golden angle 3659 02:55:51,849 --> 02:55:50,140 pyramid there's there are interesting 3660 02:55:53,889 --> 02:55:51,859 electromagnetic phenomena that can 3661 02:55:56,229 --> 02:55:53,899 happen you think of it as an echo right 3662 02:55:57,760 --> 02:55:56,239 you have radiation coming in and and 3663 02:55:59,679 --> 02:55:57,770 then you have sort of a resonance 3664 02:56:01,899 --> 02:55:59,689 developing which amplifies things 3665 02:56:05,679 --> 02:56:01,909 because things are bouncing off together 3666 02:56:07,569 --> 02:56:05,689 in not chaotically but in in unison and 3667 02:56:11,050 --> 02:56:07,579 when you have something like that then 3668 02:56:13,269 --> 02:56:11,060 you get amplification of weaker effects 3669 02:56:16,359 --> 02:56:13,279 although either sonic effects or 3670 02:56:17,859 --> 02:56:16,369 electromagnetic effects and so I believe 3671 02:56:19,840 --> 02:56:17,869 it but again this has I should I think 3672 02:56:22,090 --> 02:56:19,850 it should be it should be measured 3673 02:56:23,529 --> 02:56:22,100 there should be experiments so we can 3674 02:56:25,389 --> 02:56:23,539 confirm some of these things otherwise 3675 02:56:27,029 --> 02:56:25,399 if it's just theory then it that it's 3676 02:56:29,469 --> 02:56:27,039 just that and it's difficult for me to 3677 02:56:31,749 --> 02:56:29,479 to I don't know how to judge it in 3678 02:56:34,899 --> 02:56:31,759 theory I need to see an experiment yeah 3679 02:56:40,029 --> 02:56:34,909 and there is for me when you look at the 3680 02:56:41,919 --> 02:56:40,039 other issues of why granite was used and 3681 02:56:44,859 --> 02:56:41,929 you think about the the components of 3682 02:56:46,779 --> 02:56:44,869 granite and different frequencies and 3683 02:56:49,359 --> 02:56:46,789 resonances and quartz and things that 3684 02:56:52,359 --> 02:56:49,369 are involved with that that today we 3685 02:56:55,430 --> 02:56:52,369 understand that technology and taking 3686 02:56:58,961 --> 02:56:55,440 advantage of it why use 3687 02:57:03,501 --> 02:56:58,971 a granite in the way that they did 3688 02:57:06,051 --> 02:57:03,511 unless there was another component to it 3689 02:57:08,421 --> 02:57:06,061 you know was it was it electromagnetic 3690 02:57:12,070 --> 02:57:08,431 you know was there something else you 3691 02:57:15,110 --> 02:57:12,080 know MX there yeah the great question so 3692 02:57:17,631 --> 02:57:15,120 the first in the first dynasty and most 3693 02:57:20,720 --> 02:57:17,641 people don't know this the fifth king 3694 02:57:22,671 --> 02:57:20,730 his name is den his burial chamber was 3695 02:57:25,371 --> 02:57:22,681 lined with granite plates if you can 3696 02:57:28,100 --> 02:57:25,381 believe this so even back then 3000 BC 3697 02:57:30,350 --> 02:57:28,110 500 years before old Kingdom they were 3698 02:57:32,600 --> 02:57:30,360 cutting granite and building a floor 3699 02:57:35,360 --> 02:57:32,610 with it okay and Petri describes that in 3700 02:57:37,070 --> 02:57:35,370 his excavation in their records so grant 3701 02:57:40,041 --> 02:57:37,080 got an interview and you have all these 3702 02:57:44,150 --> 02:57:40,051 amazing jars that they are incredible so 3703 02:57:46,911 --> 02:57:44,160 that the this is a people if they did it 3704 02:57:49,791 --> 02:57:46,921 they already had the technology to make 3705 02:57:54,200 --> 02:57:49,801 amazing vases and jars if they if you 3706 02:57:56,751 --> 02:57:54,210 can cut a diorite vase in that perfect 3707 02:57:59,421 --> 02:57:56,761 shape then I can understand how you can 3708 02:58:01,850 --> 02:57:59,431 cut a block you have a transportation 3709 02:58:04,070 --> 02:58:01,860 issue on top of it but at least the 3710 02:58:06,110 --> 02:58:04,080 production the method to cut their stone 3711 02:58:08,780 --> 02:58:06,120 was already there because they had those 3712 02:58:12,070 --> 02:58:08,790 vases and jars and they're amazing 3713 02:58:17,261 --> 02:58:12,080 you've seen those right 50,000 of them 3714 02:58:20,801 --> 02:58:17,271 50,000 50,000 and and and as absolutely 3715 02:58:23,200 --> 02:58:20,811 perfect as anything you can imagine 3716 02:58:27,591 --> 02:58:23,210 breathtaking breathtaking breathtaking 3717 02:58:30,291 --> 02:58:27,601 you're absolutely right yeah if they 3718 02:58:33,110 --> 02:58:30,301 made that anything is possible but you 3719 02:58:35,030 --> 02:58:33,120 get into the logistics issue my new what 3720 02:58:39,560 --> 02:58:35,040 a great conversation tonight I look 3721 02:58:42,860 --> 02:58:39,570 forward to continuing this again let's 3722 02:58:44,740 --> 02:58:42,870 not wait a year okay let's let's get 3723 02:58:47,240 --> 02:58:44,750 back as soon as we can and continue this 3724 02:58:49,310 --> 02:58:47,250 fantastic conversation thank you so much 3725 02:58:52,371 --> 02:58:49,320 my pleasure great good to be with you 3726 02:58:55,400 --> 02:58:52,381 yeah thank you so much and now dr. Mann 3727 02:58:57,200 --> 02:58:55,410 who saves my day you can go to his 3728 02:59:01,220 --> 02:58:57,210 website the links are over to me church 3729 02:59:03,320 --> 02:59:01,230 radio comm Cheops pyramid calm it is a 3730 02:59:05,301 --> 02:59:03,330 great website with that we went 3731 02:59:07,551 --> 02:59:05,311 absolutely pole to pole I got to get out 3732 02:59:08,620 --> 02:59:07,561 of here and get credits read before we 3733 02:59:11,200 --> 02:59:08,630 get cut off 3734 02:59:12,820 --> 02:59:11,210 of the network paid to Black's executive 3735 02:59:15,370 --> 02:59:12,830 producers ritika Mary Allen show is 3736 02:59:17,200 --> 02:59:15,380 produced by MJ palm Renee Dennis and 3737 02:59:20,170 --> 02:59:17,210 Kevin announces our Steve harder gene 3738 02:59:22,990 --> 02:59:20,180 patella mark D Kovar webmaster is true 3739 02:59:26,320 --> 02:59:23,000 the geek music doug aldrich intro space 3740 02:59:28,679 --> 02:59:26,330 boys space boy music calm pay to black 3741 02:59:32,590 --> 02:59:28,689 is produced by kjsurya productions 3742 02:59:35,110 --> 02:59:32,600 indications kg are a the planet this 3743 02:59:37,060 --> 02:59:35,120 podcast zona copyright of 2020 by fade 3744 02:59:39,700 --> 02:59:37,070 to black in the game changer Network Inc 3745 02:59:41,020 --> 02:59:39,710 it cannot be rebroadcast download a copy 3746 02:59:43,389 --> 02:59:41,030 to used anywhere in the known universe 3747 02:59:45,490 --> 02:59:43,399 without written permission from paid the 3748 02:59:47,560 --> 02:59:45,500 block of the game changer network our 3749 02:59:51,400 --> 02:59:47,570 meals Jimmy church tomorrow night right 3750 02:59:53,700 --> 02:59:51,410 here Adam curry until then I want 3751 02:59:58,510 --> 02:59:53,710 everybody to be safe